Conglomerates

Would it be possible to have business conglomerates in game where people who wish to work together under one company umbrella can join forces with a CEO, have board members and pool resources? I currently have something casually outside of the game like this with friends spread across several factions and we enjoy doing it, but it would be wonderful to be able to formally do it within a framework in the game. Warring and chaining is fun, but I really love the corporate and business side of things.

Is this too much of a layer of complexity to add, or could it be something further down the line for us business nerds?

So basically cartels, could have some fun implications for expansions to things like faction dynamics, be intriguing to see what people can think up around this.

company 3.0, sure, why not

"coming soon"

I would really love it if cartels and company 3.0 happened, or even if there was a 'coming soon' so I could just think about all the possibilities and get excited. Giant corporations and the criminal underbellies. SO much fun :D

speaking of cartels, would be also cool if some companies would produce products rather than cash. Like alcohol, e drinks, drugs..

I think the base suggestion here needs some suggestion and not a generalized question. Ched's obvious response would be asking what this even looks like. Some specifics.

Also, he'd want to know what this brings to the game which factions don't already provide. The obvious benefit to a cartel or corporate structure would be embezzlement and pyramid schemes, which feels a lot like rackets in companies.

If it's not providing a unique feeling feature or quality of life enhancement to the game it is unlikely Ched will give it real consideration.

nah, you clearly don't know ched, he will respond something more along the line of: "this sounds like an amazing feature for us to implement in the future"

You obviously don't know Ched. He doesn't respond.

well torn is ultimately a game where players do crimes so maybe adding a few things like stealing supplies from an opposing company and hacking could actually be utilized giving us more of a reason to get the stock block to protect our assets even if its just a single thing a company would be able to do it would make me feel like a crime boss maybe making some actual crimes for the companies might do item smuggling would also be useful for some companies using both nerve and job points giving them good rewards yes but more risk as well.

I actually love the sound of this. Stealing things from opposing companies would be amazing! Perhaps building up to a company or conglomerate as well that you could float on the market some day would be all kinds of incredible as well... ? I love corporate type things! You could be a boss like Duke, or maybe someone who hides their criminal activities a lot more like a kingpin ?

I really threw out the question so that people could have a look and discuss it a bit. If Ched was interested in the idea and wanted a solid fleshing out of something from someone like me, I would be more than happy to do something like that. I imagine that is what he has staff for though. Suggestion threads are probably a lot better for gauging interest and getting ideas from people. A conglomerate can mean a lot of things for people, so I guess if I were to suggest a finished, polished product it would never be as fun as just doing a "What if?"

Factions tend to provide a lot in terms of support for fighting and stat growth. Companies are a little bit different though. The job stats are underutilised for now. We could do a lot more with people who choose to be excellent employees I think. Also people who choose to be great directors :) There are a lot of choices for companies, but I keep seeing the same ones being suggested to people. If you DO choose to run a company (and do it well) you should be prepared to bleed out cash for certain types of companies. Being able to do this well is a side of Torn that is just as challenging as the faction side. I think it is deserving of the love.

Being able to work with my friends and set up something within game where other directors can work together in a limited way to support one another at a further level, that would be really, really fun. I think it would just bring another dimension to the companies. The conglomerates could still be limited in scope so that they were not abused, but I really think there could be potential there for a lot of Torners that prefer crimes and companies to fighting all the time. (Though as a quick aside to my faction leader, I do still also like fighting all the time...)

NyoEi and i have been talking over the idea about maybe giving conglomerates an upgrade branch kinda like what factions have where it would increase how effective a single perk that each company has for the conglomerate... bringing the effective 3 perks up to 1/2 effectiveness

for example, each company can get up to 10* making the max amount of companies to join a conglomerate being 5 and the conglomerate would have its own set of stars being the avg amount of stars all the companies would have made the max amount of stars being 60 that they can use to upgrade their conglomerate upgrade branch leading towards their perk sharing money would also be involved in upgrades just dont have any dollar amounts in mind.[image: cdn.discordapp.com]

[background color=#6cad2b]the picture above is sorta out dated. each one of the 5 companies can only share one perk which the benifts would be be getting a 1/4th the benefit with the conglomerate preventing any one person or conglomerate fro being op. and will unlock one new OC which we are still trying to think about currently we will let you know more when we talk our idea over more in detail. [image: cdn.discordapp.com][/background]the conglomerate would have a ceo which would decide on what they would want to upgrade, and the other 4 directors would vote deciding if they want the upgrade or not it would be majority vote and encourage communication. For OC nnb would be taken into consideration im trying to think of some OCs a company could do like drug smuggling, Hacking, supply theft, etc. So if you want to help think of some OCs companies could do, that would be great.

for specials yes the companies directors would be able to choose which special they would share but actually activating the ability to share them would depend on 3 things how many stars the conglomerates have with the standard 1, 3, 5, 7, 10 unlock for it. If the company themselves have already unlocked the perk, and if they already have that perk in a conglomerate slot or not, to prevent obsessive stacking. as for the order of which the selected perks would be unlocked would be in order of company start up costs as to make sure nothing too op may happen. as for the perks like fat cat from not stacking if a company already as a perk then they will not receive it again. Though, seeing as they would only be getting a 1/4th increased amount before upgrades and half after upgrades, i dont really see it as too big an issue.

in the event where a conglomerate or company were to lose a star they would lose the last upgrade they had if they dont have any spare stars until they regain that star back


Just a rough idea to try and flesh out what we have in mind, pls feel free to try and help improve upon the idea

As you can see, productive discussion from what was a fairly basic question. We actually talked a whole lot more than this :D And thank you so much Nexus <3 You have so many amazing ideas and you should probably be on the dev team!

maybe just to avoid copying over the factions to business instead of OC call it something different and make it more on the economic side. something like political lobbying or corrupt advertising where instead of directly giving money in increase ad effectiveness or sales

that's a fair statement, i mean could call it CC for collared crimes but its still the same as an organized crime just on the business end . was just trying to pump a decent idea out of this question. yea i like the idea about increasing ad effectiveness but i'm not sure how it would be incorporated like an OC that maybe 48 hrs 2 players 25 nnb and 5k? Normally OC our in the term i guess we can call CC never had to use money before, but it is something worth thinking about.

Never tried being a dev before, not even sure I would qualify. All I did was run some questions by you and tried improving upon them. I thought it was an interesting idea and just didn't want the thought to die before it got a good amount of exposure.

Political lobbying sounds like a delicious idea! <3

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Actually, Smog wrote a whole bunch of stuff on the discord you might want to check out Nexus :)