Red Devil Xanax

Red Devil Xanax/R666 is a common form of counterfeit Xanax in the UK and the US,

So the idea goes:

Red Devil Xanax

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• Significantly cheaper than actual Xanax
• Increases energy by 85 instead of 250
• Happy +35 (Fake pills, duh)
• 50 Addiction Points
• Chance of hospitalisation which is longer than normal Xanax, so taking this will be very very risky.
• Random additional effect every pill due to real R666 being cut with unknown additive substances

Why use this rather than normal xanax?? just wouldn't make sense

Significantly cheaper. About 350k - 400k

And why would anyone use that instead of LSD?

Why would anybody use fake drugs in the first place? Because they're cheaper, and often give more or less the same desired effect.

• Higher Energy gain than LSD
• Lower happy as Xanax gives over LSD already (who would even take Xanax? I want my happy gains!)
• Random side effect that is unique to other drugs in torn.

You're literally proposing some weird middle ground between Xanax and LSD.
If you want more energy, then use Xanax.
If you can't afford it, then use LSD.

Your suggestion makes no sense, what so ever.
There's plenty of useless drugs in Torn, we don't need fake drugs that no one will use anyway.

The LSD is a Drug Item. Increases one's energy, nerve and happiness. Cost approx. $50k

Pros:

• +30% Strength
• +50% Defense
• +50 Energy
• +200-500 Happy
• +5 Nerve

Cons:

• -30% Speed & Dexterity
• Cooldown: 6-8 hours

Seems like your fake Xanax is worse in almost every way than LSD. Why are you pushing it so hard? You got stocks in it or something?

I beg to differ. That's exactly what this proposal is; a middle ground.

LSD doesn't give that much energy, 50 is barely enough to regen from 0 and there's many things you can't do with that amount of E. You say that nobody would use it and that it'd be a useless drug but the ones that give energy are the most sought after in Torn.

Xanax for some new players is far too expensive and the cooldown is 6 hours right? It''s a weaker pill so a lesser cooldown.

More E than LSD but very risky as you can land in hospital for longer. That is the gamble aspect of it and introduces a new element of risk to these drugs.

You at your big rank of 100 wouldn't go for it, I agree. But newer players and some mid levels who don't want to bother - or just can't afford spending almost 1m on a Xanax every time they need a energy regen, I guarantee would go for the gamble of it in an instant.

I mean, unless this doesn't count toward SSL. That would be the only reason I could see someone using it. Even then they just pop LSD

>+50 Energy

Xanax decreases your gym stats. Does that make it worse than LSD?

No because you get significantly more benefit (energy) from Xanax for slightly more risk (overdose hosp time / cooldown).

Your drug gives you slightly more benefit (energy) than LSD, at significantly more risk (overdose hosp time / cooldown) than both Xanax and LSD.

If you have a higher chance at a longer hosp time overdose, then is 35 more e really worth it in any way?

Isn't this the same game where energy is everything? I'd say there's a large group of players who would go for the gamble in an instant. If there is no increased risk of hospitalisation then why is it even a counterfeit drug in the first place?

I just find it funny how this game has all 100% authentic drugs, when in real life there's all sorts of shit cut with stuff like fentanyl, numbing agents etc.

I'm sure there's players who think the percentage decrease in gym stats when you take Xanax isn't a benefit whatsoever though.

I come to this forum quite often to see new ideas. There are some really good ones that ched denied or hasn't even had the time to write a reply to. I generally only upvote and don't down them. But you sir are one of those few occasions I did. This discussion is pointless just grave the thread. Even if by some mirical you get 250 more positive than negative and ched looks at this he will say no way wait for the new drugs system.

FYI with all the ways to make a quick buck in this game you are the first I have seen complain about the price and affordability of Xanax. Just guest in a ranked war and make some easy money then your Xanax problem will be solved.

For role playing reasons, Decent idea.. But this is a game where 90% of the drugs aren't used in favor of xanax anyways.. All this will do is add another drug nobody will use.

You have to understand though, everything in torn is about efficiency snd supply and demand. Let’s say they decide to use your idea, if it was a lesser cd and gave a decent amount of energy ( 85 wouldn’t work as you misewell use lsd, maybe 100) the supply and demand factor would take over and your 350-400k starting price would likely end up in the 650k range if not more due to the lower cd, at that rate your prolly just better off with xanx.

Who said I'm complaining about the price of Xanax? It's affordable for me but not for many newer players and those just starting to get up in the world of Torn. That's all I'm saying

Ah well, graveyard this. Thought it'd be an interesting idea to introduce some system of counterfeit drugs that you can get for cheaper than the real thing, while getting a percentage of the positive effects and a bit of an increase in the negative ones. But clearly people don't care too much for those into roleplaying or realism.

We all understand what you are trying to say, but your suggestion is balanced all wrong...

Xan: Costs 830k, gives 250 energy. OD causes ~24h cooldown
R666: Costs 45% the price of Xanax, gives 34% the energy, assuming OD causes 24h+ cooldown
LSD: Costs 6% the price of Xanax, gives 20% the energy, OD causes ~8h cooldown

For 300-400k a more balanced drug would give 150e and an OD somewhere in the 16h ballpark surely, otherwise what is the point?

At least you get it and give constructive criticism instead of "omg worst idea i've ever heard makes no sense"

I'm not a developer or a torn stats numbers nerd my brother, the balances can be adjusted accordingly and such if they decide to implement it (lol) but yeah just a rough sketchpad idea.

Given the brilliance and well thought out suggestion, it surprises me immensely to hear that you're not a developer or a Torn stats numbers nerd.

Here's a suggestion for you my brother - join a proper faction and learn how the game works.

Grave thread please.

Fin.