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Democrats 'Cannot Hide From This Issue

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Bhappychap [2270497]
What does child trafficking have anything to do with Democrats?

No one thinks trafficking is a myth.

It isn't as bad as advocates make
In 2021, of the 25,000 children reported
missing to NCMEC who had run away,
1 in 6 were likely sex trafficking victims.

https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/pdfs/CST%20Identification%20Resource.pdf

so ~4200 kids

Problem, yes. Big problem, no. We already have 2 US functions after them, with a total of over 3 billion in funds to fight it. Which is a little over 7 million per kid. The average human life is worth about 7 million.

Still not sure what democrats have anything to do about this.

TLDW: Basically 17 minutes of her ranting about a hot topic among about 20% of adults because she has legislation she wants to put through.
vengeance_torn [2191529]
shame that nothing is being done about this. Millions of children being kidnapped in broad daylight and Dems keeping mum...you would think that an American president would be fighting the greatest evil of our time but he is not, hmm suspicious?

anyone who pretends they dont see it or downplays it is either stupid or in on it...thats the way its always been
funny how the first ones to claim it isnt an issue are always the first ones to defend it

sound of freedom is a cinematic masterpiece
Bhappychap [2270497]
shame that nothing is being done about this.
Both the FBI and Homeland Security have task forces

Millions of children being kidnapped in broad daylight
In the US?

Dems keeping mum
Because its being blown out of proportion

you would think that an American president would be fighting the greatest evil of our time but he is not, hmm suspicious?
We already are, what more do you want done?


anyone who pretends they dont see it or downplays it is either stupid or in on it
Thats cult like thinking

thats the way its always been
funny how the first ones to claim it isnt an issue are always the first ones to defend it

No one is defending trafficking, imbecile.

sound of freedom is a cinematic masterpiece
::cringe::
vengeance_torn [2191529]
Both the FBI and Homeland Security have task forces

they aren't doing shit we need more independent thinkers like Tim doing the right thing, plus they cant be manipulated by the swamp
'task forces' aka buzzword for funneling funds into corrupt pockets

In the US?

why need to specify where the trafficking is happening? thought you might agree that trafficking anywhere is evil but guess not?

Because its being blown out of proportion

classic making claims with no sources where did you read that?

We already are, what more do you want done?

again no sources?

Thats cult like thinking

i'll say it again but funny how the first ones to claim others are in a cult are the ones in a cult themselves :^)

No one is defending trafficking, imbecile.

maybe you are, maybe you arent. time will tell

::cringe::

lol
Bhappychap [2270497]
they aren't doing shit we need more independent thinkers like Tim doing the right thing, plus they cant be manipulated by the swamp
'task forces' aka buzzword for funneling funds into corrupt pockets

Your "cinematic masterpiece" is about a member of one of these taskforces...How is that doing nothing?

why need to specify where the trafficking is happening? thought you might agree that trafficking anywhere is evil but guess not?

So the US should play world police?

classic making claims with no sources where did you read that?

My first post on this video listed sources. Its less than 4200 kids in the US, and thats the high guessitmate.

We already are, what more do you want done?

again no sources?

Are you an actual idiot? Do you not know that both FBI and Homeland security have taskforces? that the movie sound of freedom is literally about one of them?

i'll say it again but funny how the first ones to claim others are in a cult are the ones in a cult themselves :^)

No, its literally a cult thing. "if you dont believe a specific thing how I want you to, then youre against it." is literally cult 101

maybe you are, maybe you arent. time will tell

So actual idiot. I mean makes sense, you think Sound of Freedom is a "cinematic masterpiece", lol. Was your qanon forums too full?
windyrockbell [2805009]
Child Sex trafficking has become a moral panic to create moral authority amongst QAnon conspiracy theorists and other right wingers who need to create a stark dividing line to show they are the good and moral people and their enemies are irredeemably evil. It's the same kind of thing you saw in the Satanic Panic of the 80's and 90's where a lot of people talked about there being lots of satanic cults stealing babies and drinking their blood. You make your chosen enemy so monstrous that by being anti-those people your own righteousness is confirmed. The satanic panic ended up being based on rumors and lies. The current moral panic is based on trying to take a complicated worldwide issue and both lying about its causes, frequency, and tenable solutions.

When today’s activists talk about the problem of trafficking, knowing exactly what they’re referring to can be difficult. They cite statistics that actually offer global estimates of all forms of labor trafficking. Or they mention outdated and hard-to-parse figures about the number of children who go “missing” in the United States every year—most of whom are never in any immediate danger—and then start talking about children who are abducted by strangers and sold into sex slavery.



The organization that the movie Sound of Freedom is based on is an excellent example of this. They often conducted "sting operations" which were similar to drug buy and busts: posed as tourists who wanted sex and ask local criminal gang members to provide kids, then arrest the gang members once money had changed hands. Some of the children were trafficked for the first time to meet the demand of the sting operation, and the kids weren't actually 'saved' just ended up being trafficked again later because it turns out there are complicated issues of poverty and exploitation that don't get fixed with arresting a couple street corner criminals.


A lot of people have discussed that the Sound of Freedom group and movie overplay the prevalence of children being kidnapped by shadowy figures and ignores the much more common event where teenagers who are already vulnerable in various ways are trafficked by people they know.


Details like that are inconvenient though to the true purpose, which is to be a hammer you can whack anyone at, accusing them of being pro trafficking and pedophiles if anyone stops to question if their claims or conclusions are actually true.
DR34M_W34V3R [1886958]
People are ignoring the fact that conservative lawyers and judges have been pushing to abolish the sex offender registry and many times those convicted of sex trafficking are not put in the registry.

The promotion of the film has been a misinformation campaign as well. Many of the opening tickets were bought out by the promoters to give away and no one wanted them. The theatres were empty yet it was a box office hit lol. People thought there was a conspiracy because they couldn’t get tickets - the promoters had bought so many there weren’t many left for the public to actually purchase.


It’s unfortunate that conservative media continues to manipulate their customers with propaganda and lies, but that is exactly what they want. The only way they can get ppl to watch this trash is to use more lies to attract more flies.
ZickyJackz [497258]
Because that's the nature of politics. The Right will frame the left as not caring about the issue and the left will frame the right as Qanon crazies.

All I know for sure is that expecting the FBI or DHS to help in this matter at all is a fools game.
Bhappychap [2270497]
The entire subject is brought up entirely by qanon, and was absorbed into the right wing ecosphere, because qanon is closely linked.

The left is framing as we are already attacking the issue. Because we are.

All I know for sure is that expecting the FBI or DHS to help in this matter at all is a fools game.

Except they do, and have stings all the time. Do you think they just willy nilly let it happen? Do you think they don't work with other agencies around the world to try to stop things?
Bhappychap [2270497]
Sure sure, you're the victim.

Who is claiming victim? What are you talking about? Why can't you answer simple questions on the things you raised? Is it because you're just parroting shit again?

Whatever you say, gramps. lol

That's your retort? You don't actually have the answers to my questions which can easily be looked up on the internet? You're calling me gramps, and you don't know how to use google/duckduck/etc?
ZickyJackz [497258]
Awww, did I touch a nerve? LOL Hit dogs, blah blah.


You expect me to actually give you my time? I told you before. I don't f**k with you. You're a hack. A shill of the highest degree. You're a dem mickey. Why waste my time?
-El- [463504]
shame that nothing is being done about this. Millions of children being kidnapped in broad daylight and Dems keeping mum...you would think that an American president would be fighting the greatest evil of our time but he is not, hmm suspicious?

anyone who pretends they dont see it or downplays it is either stupid or in on it...thats the way its always been
funny how the first ones to claim it isnt an issue are always the first ones to defend it

Your fake outrage is hysterical.

sound of freedom is a cinematic masterpiece

Obviously you don't watch many films.
vengeance_torn [2191529]
claiming the high ground with ‘facts’ is easy when you conveniently forget that facts are entirely subjective and dont represent the real story