austerity??

so heres another one seeing as one guy didnt like the last one so much i decided to make another question...

labour voters hated the tories for austerity didnt they? they hate austerity...

i have read the labour manifesto and do labour voters understand that the number 1 pledge of labour is to enact austerity?

it says they will have strict tough rules on spending.... that is literally austerity.... so is this ok then? austerity good when labour does it?

i want your thoughts on this and be honest.

i also want to point out there are other left wing parties that match the left wing socialist views much better, such as george galloways party....
do we see that the labour party under kier starmer is just a red tory party? his number 1 pledge is austerity and tough spending and your just gonna be silent on that and let it slide and ignore it? lol

We get it - you don't like Labour. 

no you dont get it.... i like honesty and consistency.... i like people to match their claims, such as my previous threads about how certain people claim to be socialist but i pointed out they cant be due to certain ways they live their life that dont match the ideology such as being a mass greedy landlord.

i want honesty, the issue in politics is dishonesty, and people whod blindly defend their party from any criticism and make us stuck with the same 2 parties for eternity which are in essence the same party....

a honest socialist would be a workers party of britain voter, and id respect them for that... im not against socialism, im not against left or right.... im against dishonesty and hypocrisy.... i want a world of truth, a world of true critical thinking and open criticism, a world were each ideology sticks to their claimed ideology. i respect that, i can vote for george galloway and socialists like him because he is honest and true to his ideology and words, and in that everything he says would be true and hed not hide anything from you.

same with tories, why would a tory voter continue voting and defending the tory party? wouldnt the reform party better suit them in honesty?

i dont get why people have to lie and be dishonest then savagely viciously defend their lying party that is lying to them from criticism, its self defeating... and its why we get a loop of the same bad parties doing the same bad things and never changing.

labour voters hated the tories for austerity didnt they? they hate austerity...

austerity lol yet more tory buzzwords, its really just social murder

no one hates austerity, they hate millions of the sick and disabled essentially being culled by tory policy

but then that's how people like yourself make such things as millions of deaths palatable eh?

how many people have died since the tories enacted their austerity again?

10 years of austerity and what do they have to show for it?

nothing of substance at all

just like you

post as many as you like, you're only going to dig a deeper hole for yourself, and I'm more than willing to help you dig xx

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i will simply use your dumb ass to educate everyone else

https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/news/austerity-results-in-social-murder-according-to-new-research

did you read the thread?

im pointing out labours number 1 pledge for 2024 in their own manifesto.... read it.... read my thread.... read labours manifesto.... think what austerity is.... read the part of labours pledge where they said they wont spend anything and they will be very strict and tight on spending.... come back.... apologise, realise you was wrong, realise that i am pointing out that labour is promising to enact austerity...

this is labour saying they are going to do austerity... what say you to that? ... do you defend austerity now that labour says they will do it? ... do you deflect and whine about tory austerity while ignoring labours promised austerity? .... you need to calm down and stop treating people as enemies then you might understand what people are saying and then you may see me as a actual ally, as a real core labour voter who is seeing the current labour as sell outs and copying tory policy....

no you dont get it.... i like honesty and consistency.... i like people to match their claims

youre a tory

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

and labour is promising to do this in their 2024 manifesto and it went over your head because you cant read.... i should be able to disqualify your from this thread if you cannot read to participate well enough lol

i agree austerity is bad... i pointed out labour voters hate austerity... .you prove with this you hate austerity.... this all proves me right on the first part.

the second part of the point, labour is promising in their manifesto to enact austerity... what say you to that? .... do you defend austerity and deflect from it and whine about tory austerity to hide that now? why do you defend austerity when labour promises it? double standard hypocrite???

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read his manifesto.... read the first pledge...

If the Tory filth after they won in 2010 (with Lib Dems)  had followed through with Alistair Darlings budget and so on before Labour left office there would have been no need for austerity

You don't want an honest discussion, despite thinking you do. 

You've started all of these threads with outrageous assumptions about Labour voters, and then want to argue as though these assumptions are true.

According to you, all Labour voters:

• Don't believe in land borders
• Don't want more houses built
• Hate austerity (by which I assume you mean maximising the reduction of national debt)

I don't know any Labour voters that fit this criteria, so who exactly do you want an honest discussion with?

I put it to you that you don't actually speak to left wingers, and everything you know about them you've heard from other right wingers.

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this?

you know that economic stability does not have to mean killing people?

i know that might be a concept your average tory would struggle with though so I can see how you feel like that's what it means, because that's what it does mean, to people like you

the same people that are scared of becoming a minority because of how they treat minorities, so they think that's how they'd get treated lol

no alot of these things are actual widespread ideas.

one of my neighbours for example, he always posts about palestine all the time but he too then mentioned that borders are all fake anyway and he doesnt believe in borders and so on... it kinda gets to a confusing place as it twists like that and you then ask what kind of world would this be with no borders and how do they think the power structure would be and how would democracy work and so on... how would even basic institutions exist even.... it seems daft.

alot of people i see saying and repeating things about not believing in borders.... or maybe im just following too many left wing pages on facebook.... maybe you dont see them because you follow right wing pages? lol

thanks for that, yes, number one, read it..... "with tough spending rules" 

tough spending rules is austerity.... its stingy spending... its not wanting to spend.... its being stingy... hesitating on spending instead of spending liberally.

its not something id have expected from labour. id expect them to not care about tightening their belt and being careful spending, id expect no holds barred full on investments into society.

also should i point out number 3 is also a tory policy? .... all about stronger borders and keeping migrants out? ... .eesh that sounds like another topic i should do lol how do labour voters feel on that? isnt that racist?

So you get your politics information from your neighbour and Facebook? I think I've found the problem.

'Honest discussion' my arse.

and yet i pointed out how i actually read the labour parties manifesto while you have never read any party manifesto and you likely get all your politic info from the media who are heavily biased and filled with hatred? .... yeah... i think i see the problem with you... grow up little child and come back when you want to have a adult conversation

More wild assumptions. How did you come to the conclusion that I haven't ever read a party manifesto? 

I also don't think you have ever read one yourself. You may have read a headline or two, or seen some bullet points on a meme on your beloved Facebook, but I doubt you've ever read an actual document. (I've based my assumption on your incoherent ramblings, terrible spelling and grammar, and the awful structure of your threads - all things that can be improved by regularly reading long-form articles).

but yet the entire thing is me pointing out austerity in labours manifesto?

i had to have read it to find it as you couldnt find it lol

by the way your constant insults and personal attacks violates forum rules, you need to think about that more and cool down

be civil. answer the thread, if you havent got anything nice to say then bog off. politics is not like football.... you shouldnt back a party like a football team..

Insults? Personal attacks? Please report me as I'd like to know where these things are. It's not like I called you a crybaby snowflake.