Hello all, it's been a while since a complete shitshow is going around and I've had enough of it.
You all probably know that I was accused of being a scammer with my forum games in this article : Here
Now let's get in the detail and see behind the scenes.
First of all, I've created a single scratch game back in 30/11/2023 (8 months ago). Can be found here.
I was always transparent with any of the payouts and almost had no complaints on my app. I've constantly updated and enhanced the user experience and thus people got addicted to it, I was getting sent hundreds of Xanax everyday, and I was also paying out a TON to the winners.
Then I happened to love the money and got into opening RW Caches, at this point, I thought I should sell the games for a good chunk, and just use that money on RW Caches all over again. That was the first mistake, I was just rushing to get a huge amount of cash instead of slowly building up with the game I own. Anyways the game was sold for 4.5b, lots of drama there but it's in the past and it's resolved with the actual buyer so I'm not going to dirty his name here.
So I took the cash, handed over the code and got busy irl, started my masters, started a job etc. Then it went sideways and I come back in Torn had some free time and coded another game(click to see the thread), which then again made quite a bank, and I happened to sell it about 1.5 months later again. That was the 2nd mistake.
I then got inspired by the Christmas Town Pot game and decided I should make my own, the game being a complete PvP with just a 10% house fees for hosting it seemed pretty good in my mind. So I've started on another project, which could be seen here.
As seen on my previous threads there are no big complaints or accusations for straight 6 months. People are not dumb, you won't be the first person to notice something scummy after 6 months. Then I added another game on my app, a coinflip. Of course to avoid bleeding money there should be an house edge, it's not a rigging mechanism, it just prevents me going bankrupt on the long term because I didn't have any max bet limit, people were welcomed to try and martingale. And on the first day of the update, a guy came in and deposited a TON of xanax to play with, he won quite a lot and increased his bets progressively, I was even asleep at the time and I woke up to see around 2000 xanax on my inventory. I reached out the guy and said, are you ok? You should stop playing if that's all your money etc. He then continued to deposit another 3k Xanax and lost it. Now the total loss is around 5100 Xanax he asked me a refund of 5150 Xanax otherwise he's gonna deposit 8k and possibly bankrupt me if he wins. I said this is not how it works, you can very well stop playing, I'm not buying your threat, he then proceeded to deposit another 8k and luckily, lost. Then this incident moved to GD pretty fast. And lots of people were discussing about how I made over 10B profits with my games in a single day.
This is where the fun begins. The famous newspaper guy called Cookdandbombd was highly interested of my capabilities and making 10B profits in a day. So we've talked over and made a deal for a sale, he bought my games (Xannie and Coinflip) for 9Billion. I've spent the next couple of days trying to fix his code cause he's messed up on it so many times. I'd say no less than 12 hours of work was done to fix his own errors.
2 days later, he hopped in my DMs saying he's done with running the game, he got health issues etc and writing it as a loss while also saying he enjoyed every bit of it, screensharing/bugfixing and all the stuff we went together, as we had quite a bit chat and spent good time together.
As clearly seen here, he said he's gonna let it die. In the meantime the other owners of my previous 2 games were struggling to make money aswell because now there are too many competitors in the field, we were undercutting our profits by having different services.
I first offered to run the games on cooks' behalf and just split profits, so he can mind his own business and his investment of 9B wouldn't be for nothing. I won't share all the screenshots because there are over 100, TLDR of it, he said he's a perfectionaist and can't be a partner without constantly giving attention to the games. I then said, I should buy ALL the games back and combine it in a single place. So the competition would be over, and the games would be pretty much alive, I didn't want my hardwork to be left behind and left to die by the buyers.
In the meantime I used my cash for buying tons of RW Caches, gambling and etc. I had quite a bit inventory. Follow the next screenshots:
I didn't have quite cash left on me but I had tons of RW Stuff, and I figured I could offer those to buy the games back as they hold a value.
I then later contacted the 2 other previous buyers and asked for a deal. Made a deal with both of them. I gave them RW gear as "collateral" and we made a deal, although the deal was at a much higher price than my initial sale, I sold the scratch for 4.5b and was asked 8b when I wanted it back, anyways.
After buying the games I was paying weekly payments to each owner, and I was getting back my collateral. Then just 6 DAYS later after I agreed with ALL of the previous owners and bought the games, famous guy Cookdandbombd published an article about me. This infact started to effect my business gradually (Note, to this day I STILL have customers playing because they know I'm legit.)
See below the conversation with cookd.
He insisted on that those weapons were not worth 14B cash, I knew they were, but I just wanted my game back since he's now done with it.
Now here you all should understand, I could've re-published ALL of the games I've sold before, without making any deal with buyers, I wrote them, I have the codes, except for the first project cause I've agreed on deleting it, but it's not hard to write it all over again. But instead, I respected each and every one of them and tried to make deals, because I wasn't scamming anyone and never planned to. So I chose to pay almost 30Billion instead of paying 0 and being a d*ck.
Following, cookd now claims the games have value in it (He just said that he was going to let them die). He smelled the profit miles away and decided to play me in.
In the first screenshot in this thread he clearly said its fine, it was a nice adventure. Now he wants money off of it because I really want to combine all my games in 1 place. And he knew I'm not scummy, he knew that I would pay rather than going off republishing my code without paying anything.
Fast forward in conversation :
We've discussed over splitting shares and payment as in RW gear, then he said I just want weapons without rights, and he wanted MORE of it. Just trying to snatch as much as he can at this point.
He's not writing off 9b, there's still value in it, what happened to his initial message of "I'll just let it die"? Because this shit smells money.
We then made the deal, I wasn't happy with it, but at least I was kind and not scamming anyone, not even in the background.
And he agreed on sending anything over 9b back, meaning I actually didn't lose money, he bought it for 9, sold it back for 9. But of course this never happened. And I indeed lost billions in this deal.
I was even kind enough to find/direct him possible buyers for the weapons :
And I witnessed his few other sales on Auction which were doing pretty well.
And here is the list of the weapons traded by the way :
I'm not gonna take a seperate screenshot for all the weapons but here it is as text in order:
69% Quicken Yasukuni
18% Motivation Yasukuni
20% Weaken Yasukuni
20% Berserk Samurai
51% Parry Samurai
7% Expose Samurai
53% Empower Naval
17% Eviscerate Naval
23% Weaken Naval
8% Rage Metal Nuns Orange
84% Empower Kodachi
6% Rage Kodachi
28% Grace Kodachi
77% Empower Katana
56% Parry Katana
24% Weaken Katana
59% Assasinate DBK
22% Plunder DBK
I then completed my other deals with other owners and bought all the games eventually. And I took some time off to actually put the work in and create an all in 1 app.
I published the app at 21/04/2024 as seen on my thread. 2 days later this happened:
I was blindly kicked off from my faction after he took all the weapons above and I published my new version. I was shocked and tried to reach out to the faction leaders, and boom, there was a report that my games were rigged.
Funny enough NO ONE ELSE pointed this for the past 6 months of my journey but then I buy the games back and immediately there are some gossip going around me?!
Few days later I was contacted by sugarvalves that they are preparing an article about me, asking me questions, accusing me of rigging the games and DENYING to show me the actual proof of the scam. I was then interviewed thoroughly.
Here I'm being asked weird questions this starts to stink right away. Check question 2, how is it possible to tweak a game after I hand over the codes to the new owner? Anything done is basically DONE by the new owner, that's not my responsibility.
3rd question is related to the first problem I've encountered with the first buyer of the games, which then resolved, both sides were at fault and then made peace.
I will skip the 3rd answer cause I respect the privacy of the guy that I had problems with, again, they have been resolved. And the 5th answer doesn't really matter it's just asking my personal plans, so here is the rest.
And days later the article was finally published.You can go and check it out how my interview questions were used out of context and just manipulated to fit in the overall storytelling of it.
Now for the best part everyone loves hates about me
This piece of screen is actually what devastated me. You should know that there were never back door nor any kind of progress that helped me rig the games. Again that would've been NOTICED far too earlier and my business would go down. People are not stupid. This was just a conversation with "a friend" thinking he wouldn't take this answer to be used in such context. Don't come up and tell me that you don't talk shit with your friends.
But then his asking for a jackpot win and split was turned out to be made with Sugarvalve's knowledge, as if he is the Police of Torn and you can say and trick people into anything to be used in a completely different context than the actual conversation.
I can say the same thing for him then, "oh I said yes but I just tried to bait him into it". How does this sound?
Now that is all clear. Here's the actual best part. I'm quitting Torn. Yes you've heard it right. I've actually served and helped a lot to the community, whether newbies, faction members, random guys asking questions, beggars that constantly come and ask for money, I did help them all. And I've started another business of making scripts for users, but that went also sideways cause of the article. Not to mention I had happy customers. But just yesterday something about that came up aswell.
A guy named Star texted me and said he needs a script to manage his company's employee positions and pays aswell as the advertising budget. I've spent couple of hours on it and we did some test runs together on discord, and he finally was happy with the results, and this costed him 100m. Later I decided this is actually a useful script and started advertising my OWN work. I was DMing company directors and one of them turned out to have another script, that has a similar goal with mine, and is completely free on the forums.
This was the conversation between me and the guy. He then quickly rushed to GD and made a forum post about it.
The guy is basically accusing me of stealing his work. As in the line written : "charging people 100m for a script that I made free". No sir, that's not your script I am charging. I am charging my own script, and you seem to have developed a similar one back in 4 months ago. I wish I knew it existed so I could direct the customer to it instead of spending couple of hours on it.
Anyways then of course, since there is an article about me, people just started oh that guy this guy again. Even the Star, who made the request for this script showed up and said this:
Clearly stating that 2 scripts are not the same, there was no code/logic being stolen from his script and my script is actually better than his free version aswell. Even this was on the first page, people just argued about me, how I took someone elses script and resold it, how I scammed everyone in this game and have an article written on my name etc etc.
One thing is that you can never satisfy everyone, and the majority of people just tend to believe whatever they read first, and stuck with it.
At the end, Star could've done a better research to see if the thing he wants existed in forums or not, I could've done a research to see if it's already done by someone else, BUT, I don't have to follow and know every other script that's been created in this game. It's literally impossible for me or anyone else to do this. YET I'm getting thrown stones because of a script I made, has similar goals by someone elses script.
So here's pretty much the story behind the doors. As I said, I'm quitting Torn cause I've had enough of the ignorant people and trolls in the forums. You can find yourself someone else to mess with.
TLDR; No tldr, go read the whole stuff.
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