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Goodbye Torn, for real this time.

Started by Uncle [1945385] on in Graveyard.

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bogie [148747] Admin Staff

Proxima/Andy were dealt with at the time according to the guidelines set out, I'm not retroactively changing their sentencing and quite frankly I think you're reaching here. These are players with a history, players with prior bans, players who were told they are already on a knife edge and continued rule violations (let alone to this severity) would result in permanent bans.

 

I still don't believe I would have changed their sentencing as it's been repeatedly blown out of proportion in order to facilitate particular motives and attempts to weaponize mods.

 

We've given leniency, and ovoxo's recent forum comments show he was in no way innocent. His leniency has run out.

 

Wishing you the best, but I'm not going to give the impression that we in any way condone this or that innocent people here were jailed when it's clearly not the case.

Girthmasterr [2908290]

Haven't been playing torn for very long but the double standards and preferential treatment have been obvious long before I joined Monarch.

 

 

ZOMB13 [1795241]

Are you going to allow people to actually discuss it in there or just go around deleting any posts that don't agree with you because having such high profile feddings should allow for some sort of discussion, fair enough to delete any trolling but censoring genuine discussion is ridiculous 

Freddo [2058023]

Not sure on what this situation is all about but it’s a real shame to see Ovo go out this way. Dude was a legend, sound guy. So if he is innocent here I do hope he gets his account back.


For Nova and Herr, keep em in there lol 

Euphoria [1443076] Wiki Contributor

Once again no precedent for these things, classic biased decision as usual depending on who you are and faction allegiance

LadyVoldemort [3189612]

Punishments from staff are disproportionately severe for the behavior or action. If you don’t like how people communicate or behave in the forum bar them from that…as Auggie said I don’t get how rewarding players who have spent 10-20 years on your game with a ban even registers in staffs head as appropriate 

 

EDIT: 

finally got all the information on what has happened. So bogie abused his power by hooking up with a player or staff (Julie), is mad people know and were going to expose him, and is playing the victim?! A man abuses his power over a female and he is the victim. This is beyond disgusting bogie. Someone asked for an enby category! You called them a Buffoon and they respond with I bet princess Julie got the knob knocker keepsake and because you got a blowjob from her you full force lost it?

further edit: since you all wanna give a down vote, just know I HAVE never valued karma or believed it to be my fifth stat. I have been subjected to workplace abuse where my supervisor grabbed me. I never gave him any reason to do this through behaviors or communications. At work I dressed in professional attire. He grabbed me and when I spoke up, I got fired. I don’t condone harrassment but I will NEVER condone a man being in power and abusing that by having relationships or communications that are inappropriate. Bogie isn’t a priest he’s entitled to his own personal life and relationships, but as staff on THIS game he should not have a relationship with any individual who plays or is staff, it’s wildly inappropriate. The public announcement was further cringe for me because abusers like to have support for their cause. There was no evidence even provided to support any of the bans besides HIS personal testimony. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I won’t sit back and condone this because that would be like saying what happened to me was okay. 

Luna [1458904]

Don't allow leniency, but don't also double dip into the same pot of poop. I don't wanna continue past this point.

Pops [1025410]

if CRLF was here she'd be spinning in her grave at the thought of all discussion related to this being driven into the fedded thread

 

this should be something that should be an openly discussable topic in torn 

WaywardSquid [2330087] Officer Officer

You are absolutely free to discuss things in the fedded thread where the responses are. What we won’t entertain is furthering the harassment or the spread of false information about the case. Any other opinions are free to share there. 

Shenzi [2410113]

Then show both sides of what was said with the proof instead of a essay from someone who is by there own words bias and one of the effected.

Edit: spelling

LadyVoldemort [3189612]

What about a man abusing his power? 

here’s a great metaphor: bosses shouldn’t have relationships with subordinate employees 

 

edit: if this person has a ban, why isn’t bogie demoted as well, seems fair on all fronts? Did this person obtain their position after relationship because that is the literal example of staff displaying favoritism. Then demote Julie. A lot of ways to be fair here.