As far as I know, staff don't usually show fedded players all the evidence. Maybe I am wrong, maybe it depends on the fed reason. I'm not in a position to claim that is correct though, so if i'm wrong somebody please correct me.
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Started by CRLF [2095076] on in General Discussion.
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Yea no shit, doesnt mean its not a power he holds, that influences bias. Go back to hiding out
I still love you Bogie
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That's bogie so emotional guy.
Be a man bro!
Staff Edit: Harassment
Agreed, bogie is clearly emotionally compromised and needs to be put on administrative leave for a while. (Especially given the alleged actions against him that led to the emotional toll and admitted rl suicide attempt)
The words bogie says and actions he takes publicly are obviously going to be unusual/inconsistent/scattered and absolutely should be read by us as such in that context.
I'd argue Ched needs to take bogie's badge and gun for a few weeks. Julie's too. Yes, that kind of means Herr "impacted the game" and got his way in a sense in the short term, but in the long run it seems like the clear path forward. Senior staff like Stretch, Icebluefire, Ampheromine, Cloudjumper, etc. are all very capable of running the show for a week or two if Ched doesn't have time/energy/focus to do so.
You do you, but until we see some arbitration and bogie / PJ get cleared by a qualified 3rd party, I'm going to withhold character judgment.
Ched - If you happen to read this, let us know how we can help.
It's so funny to see people watch in real time how bogie lied about his own players, accused them of committed actual real world criminal offences, threatened police involvement, all just to get more support for wiping them off the game and getting a massive emotional response / reaction. He committed literal libel here and called his own players CRIMINALS IRL. He was very quick to point out how he was affected IRL but had no thought whatsoever for the RL mental health of the players he was accusing of literal crimes and knowingly lying about it and deceiving the entire game as to what transpired. We have all been manipulated and emotionally blackmailed and lied to by our COMMUNITY MANAGER.
It happened to them now, it could happen to any and every single one of you tomorrow. He has shown his true colours, that he is not above being a lying, libellous POS who will stop at nothing to get support.
You watched him in real time make all of these lies and stories that did not add up on further review, he let the lies simmer and did not correct anything at all until after he got called out directly.
This man is a fraud and he will do anything it takes to get his way, including but not limited to lying, libel, emotional manipulation and grand deception.
Just remember this day. You will not stand up for the victims of bogie's crimes today, when it happens to anyone else in the future it will be because you failed to stand up for what is right.
This is I hope a highly unique situation. Given the very personal, one off nature of this involving some staff, those same staff should not be involved in the managing or the messaging of the case. No HR department would allow a victim or target to manage their own case.
Everyone agrees doxxing & blackmail is not okay. I am glad Bogie clarified today that only Herr engaged in that threat directly. That’s extremely serious. (& no Bogie & PJ did not deserve that. Who cares what two consenting adults do).
But generally speaking can you imagine if it was yourself lumped into an accusation of being in an illegal blackmail ring getting reported to police? & you maybe have referred people in real life to the game. Or know people or co-workers who play. & that innuendo was made about you without evidence & people just believed it? Yikes.
(to be clear I am not defending Nova because his comment alone was icky & I thought at the least he was gonna get a permanent forum ban for it).
Jesus Christ on a motorbike! I just went to make coffee...
You know it's bad when the biggest narc on torn dot com is saying you should be put on time out
That guy has a kid. If the blackmail attempt was true, it will affect his whole family. Won't you be depressed as well?
Still deleting posts is not ok unless they were really rule breaking. This isn't north korea wtf.
Also I would take time off for bogie. Be that now or later. Maybe a week or two. Keeping our sanity is just as important as keeping our job. Let senior staf handle the case.
These actions prove that Ched and bogie don’t give a gotdamn about long term established players. The way they see it, new chumps will take their place.
I am not saying that they owe anyone anything, other than applying the rules equally from a place of logical thought. These piss poor decisions were made out of unhinged emotion. This is why the CM should not be a player too.
I don’t understand why bogie should feel bad about exploring a relationship with someone else on staff. Good for him, honestly. I’d celebrate him finding happiness with someone from Torn! There should be no shame in that. I don’t understand why these’s so much shame being felt in this. The overreaction seems to come from shame.
Andyman is right, Ched needs to step in.
No, Hemig is right, we dont do that.
I want you all to understand something... you are all just guessing whats going on and what happend behind the scenes and you are fighting for people here you think you know! I know they may be your friends and it sucks to let them go, but do you all think we would do such a big fedding lightheartedly to invite such a shitstorm and hating like this? Definitely not!
On top of that I see people here saying "its not fair, when an admin is harassed there is action, when Im harassed nothing is happening."
That is absolute bullshit as bogie always tends to ignore harassment and rulebreaks on himself. We would have actioned tons of things but he says its ok, its only me.
So it is the other way around and what tells you that? That this now must be super serious! As it is.
You wont ever know all the insights, no one might. But regardless...nothing will bring them back and it is time to get over it and make a point here. Stop asking for more insights, for a change of plans, for bogie to step down etc. I think bogie and PJ had a stressful enough time due to this drama, lets move on.
And hemi is still only in temporary fed btw. Trying to find out if it was malicious or not.
And one more thing... No one is forcing people to push the borders again and again until finally getting fedded. This is somehow only happening to players who like to break rules several times, how about just playing a game and be nice and dont break the rules, its an option!
Thank you
This whole feeding needs to be reexamined with what's happened the past few hours. To have a community manager implying that 4 of the 5 fedded were blackmailers when they were in fact not is very questionable. It also brings into question how impartial this whole investigation was in the first place.
Thank you Jairyll - the jerk circle here is becoming old and I hope this so-called discussion gets shut down very soon.
EDIT: Lol Rebel, I'm on nobody's side. This shitshow has been going on for like 50 pages and it's time for everyone to breathe.
Edit 3:
The irony is not lost on me
Edit 4: Apparently these two aren't monarch, like the previous 3. Maybe just sympathisers
Damn, I ain’t read this thread in a while. Holy shit, I still give prayers out to Bogie with the mental health struggles. It seems he needs to take a step away and Ched should make him do so, if he is deleting 100s of posts out of emotions.
It is of course, he say, she say but if what the accused are saying is true.. then my god..
Herr is a piece of shit but… an unlawful fed is an unlawful fed and I hope they get back to playing if this whole situation is a bunch of lies built to make the community go against all of those fedded.
jaryll kicked me from obn serer,because nothing
Protocol exists for a reason.
You don't let the lifeguard back on the stand after they save someone's life. You give them the day off.
PREACH
Simple things they have not been banned from the game they have been fedded they can restart like they have before, they have a history of breaking rules and harrasing people.
Admin decisions are above base players. They preen and act entitled but the thing is you was transparent when you didn't need to be you answer questions and make statements when you do not actually need to explain anything.
You guys have done well to answer it as you did personally i would of kept bogie away from it but i also definitely would step in if i was in his shoes.
Let them whine and moan and cry that it is not fair and kindly remind them half of them have moaned and said how these people get away with so much. but when you do manage the situations you are wrong for that too...
Do you guys ever wonder if ched knows this is happening or is he just in his room wanking to hentai and oblivious
I for one don't have any horse in this race, as I said before if the people who got banned did commit those crimes, rest in piss..
Can we have atleast have another thread on this? 🤔
Bogie, if someone impartial makes the thread, is that acceptable?
I just wanna see fedded archives back to normal tbh 😭😂