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You play about 6 minutes a day on average. That's reasonable for a low respect faction and my comment was not meant to throw shade at you but to point out that it's silly to try to claim that some big faction would take you. Casual players are allowed to exist - but this constant "you could be in a platinum faction where they'd treat you right" is bullshit.

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This is the kind of things I like to see in torn. Wrongs being righted.

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You weren't dumb, we're supposed to trust our faction leaders.

Glad you were given back your money by that guy Kasto, very honorable from his side.

Your post is also easy to understand, properly illustrated with images and by lacking linkies u gave IDs.

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Why would you need to track your balances through the forums?

The balances are literally there, unless the dipshit is editing peoples balances to $0 without at least DMing the person to send them their money.

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https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=2&t=16464759&b=0&a=0

I never could be bothered to read all the print screen web hosted images. Is there a tl;dr on what happened there? How does it relate to this post? And man you have a better memory for names than I do!!!

Lets get this straight. -

• This fella knew too use the faction vault thread to keep track of banking if its needed. I guess every1 forgets about the days when we didnt have the patch that gave us balances straight away. 
• There was zero msg's for him being in-active. Thats prolly why he didnt show them and it isnt cuz the chat log reset cuz mine says 25 days old. we really, we got to read between the lines here.
• Its not just soley my decision here, lol. I had 2 other co-owners of the faction that majority ruled after looking through 50 sumtin pages and finding no deposits that were not already given. The only thing we saw was moneys hed be given for his war effort when active. 
• In 17 years, ive never been accused of scamming another player and it collabrated by the fact no other faction member of mine in all of my factions havent said anything in this fellas defense.
• A big thing too remember here folks. Is if one newer tc player can extort a faction for cash that he or she didnt earn whats stopping it from happing everywhere else?
• I see alot of post about this new balance thing, lol. Maybe with a lil research, every1 would realize I still do shitol school. I was taught to do bank thread in faction and thats what i do for my members. For rw payouts, they can ask right away or we give it to them within 48 hrs to avoid confusioin for this exact reason.
• All this guys shown is chat logs. And i havent even asked the other 2 owners if they wanna pay this inactive guy yet. I dont think this fool is worth it. Wheres the balances? There were 5 others with faction vault access? Any deposit logs or faction requested forum thread posts? The thing is, Just cuz everyone doesnt use the balance sheets and the games new features. Doesnt make it wrong. Its just that this games grown over 100X sinnce i started playing. 
• 1 month prior to selling my faction. I did give up with balances as every1 was doing there own thing >< there were reset when our new accountant came in. But im sure if theres proof, they will find it if it exsists.
• I knew i was old school and started asking advice from players and shifted the responsibilty onto my co-lead. My payouts have looked like this for as long as ive been running factions. All paper and pen before it gets to this stage.

https://prnt.sc/hOM8Gc-W0MGi

However, i had found out after reading threw this that, this back fella successfully backdoored me to extort a friend of mine ive trusted for years kasto >< And for some reason he had paid this guy the 70 mil. Wow!!!! If i would have thought it was this easy to gain cash, would have done it long ago. 

I want it to be known that im given kasto this money for doing this on my accord. That is a good friend. But should have asked me for my side before he sent any cash. Its tc money for crying out loud, doesnt mean alot. But not a single sole in tc will say that they enjoy getting extorted. Its harder to mug these days so extortion has been big and on the rise :)

01:17:53 - 04/06/25 You sent $70,000,000 to Kasto with the message: take it

I dont think this was a good idea as it shows others how easy it can be to extort factions. Wish every1 the best of luck and to watch out for those oddballz out there. 

We dont steal, theres no need for it. Ive always prided myself on helping new players and talking a new players punches if needed. We dont go for bullying in torn nor do we need drama from gold diggers like this back fella. Eod, the newbies already been known for being in-acyive and maybe thats my B. But we did give him a chance. 

Like every before him/her. Any member that goes inactive ethier gives us everything they have cuz there retiring or quitting, lets us know, or we simply kick them and anything left especially it being as little as 69 mil will be lost in transaction as it goes straight into supporting your faction mates through purchase of faction drugs and meds rather than a players inactiveness just cuz >

As for my normal trolls like dsla and thor and a few others. Its getting old now :/ get some new material rather than smack talking in forums all the time. How would yall know me, i ignored you asap, but always seem to find something to say, lol

I don't care what type of shit paragraph you made up with your version of escapism. End of day is that you lied to him by stating you'd have to look in the logs to see what his balance was etc. instead of just looking at his balance (unless you zero'd it). 

No one gives two shits about your pay structure. They care about you not giving this guy his $ back that was in the faction vault that belonged to him and then ignoring him multiple times.

you sound like the type of person who's never taken accountability for anything in their life and is constantly looking for a loophole to take advantage of less informed people to come out on top; even if its just for couple corn chips.

This is spot on- in his post he mentions people being "oddballz" he must be lookin' in the mirror.

In general, yes, absolutely . But I'm not sure "I was so inactive I got kicked from a 10k faction" is the standard we are aiming for.

Wait hold up you don't actually put the money into their vault balance you just put it into a spreadsheet?

So everyone just has $0 balances?

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This is literally built into Torn here. Each person in faction has a vault balance of $0 that can (gasp) be increased using in game mechanics (or a handy dandy script I just found out about the other day - works on mobile even tho it says it's for desktop only).

Where exactly did you see him deposit money? Did he show you and not every1 esle? Thought we were pretty clear. Lol. Your old enough to remember the days of forum threads for vaults in the faction. Dont play stupid, lol. 

Its requested by every member to keep track of there own money through the faction thread, cant give special treatment to just 1 person. And alot of us have better things to do than look through pages of transactions as the filters are not that great yet :)

Stay for the drama tho, you specified enjoying it :)

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