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Faction Crippling Issue

Started by latenyte [3245878] on in Bugs & Issues.

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  • Viciously_Grim [2752611] · 3 likes ·
    CJ has been pretty thorough in his answer of "yes, it is intended behavior, deal with it." By the time you complete the level 6 oc's your scope will have recovered. Maybe quit gambling on spawning a single level 5. …
  • CloudJumper [1636201] · 2 likes ·
    Lower tier OCs provide more Scope than what they cost. If you are running out of Scope, you can do lower tier OCs to build up your balance. If your faction does not have members to do 8s, then you …
  • latenyte [3245878] · 1 likes ·
    Right now we have at least 5 extra L6 OC's... we didn't need them and may time out, but they are extra from trying for a L5. Did you seriously intend factions to pay over 4x spawn price to get …
latenyte [3245878] · #1

I am a part of a faction that doesn't war.  Instead we do chains, crimes and OC's.  We are now at a point where scope is extremely rare when 1 of 8 spawns is a L7 and the rest L8, etc...

 

We are having to spawn several OC's that we wont use to get one we need.  I strongly believe that completing an OC should not be a gamble.  We are ok if you decide to raise scope prices a little to spawn specific OC's because in the long run we wouldnt run out of scope.

 

When our members are asked to do OC's they are over qualified for, their payout is less and respect earned is also less.  Why are factions having to do so much work, just to play an integral part of Torn.  Our moral has suffered, conflicts have risen and the overall current view on OC's is, they're an expensive hassle...

 

Please fix the OC spawning system to maybe a drop down like what you did for burglary.   It would solve several problems.

 

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CloudJumper [1636201]Staff · #2

There are no further changes planned for the spawning system. Scope management is something that you will have to do as a faction.

 

Thanks!

latenyte [3245878] · #3 · edited

I can't plan for scope if it's going to take more than 5 attempts to get the OC you want!  Is the next L5 OC going to cost 6 scope or is it going to cost 42 scope.  There is no way to budget for that.  I do not accept your response...

 

If you are saying our faction is at fault for running out of scope I call BULLSHIT!

CloudJumper [1636201]Staff · #4

Lower tier OCs provide more Scope than what they cost. If you are running out of Scope, you can do lower tier OCs to build up your balance. If your faction does not have members to do 8s, then you are better off doing lower tier OCs once in a while. This is 100% a management problem. There are many smaller as well as stronger factions who are able to sustain their scope balance.

latenyte [3245878] · #5

Right now we have at least 5 extra L6 OC's...  we didn't need them and may time out, but they are extra from trying for a L5.  Did you seriously intend factions to pay over 4x spawn price to get the oc we need.

The_Virginian [2799939] · #6

Complete crimes, get more scope. If you are running out of scope because crimes aren't being completed frequently or successfully, it's a leadership issue, join a faction that invests in your growth.

Viciously_Grim [2752611] · #7 · edited

CJ has been pretty thorough in his answer of "yes, it is intended behavior, deal with it."

 

By the time you complete the level 6 oc's your scope will have recovered. Maybe quit gambling on spawning a single level 5. I always considered the oc's grouped and yolo'd the ones that were too "high level" for our team. You'd be surprised how many red teams pass oc's.

 

You can also have someone "hold" the level 6 ocs so they don't despawn while you complete one at a time.

 

You can run some low level oc's to replace the scope lost from your gambling attempts. Or just yolo the level 6s like the hardened criminals you are.

Tyler_Durden [977323] · #8

While im not a fan of the spawning system, your problem is a management issue not something that needs to be fixed by the spawn system. My problem with the spawn system is the rate it seems to pick the same crime after already spawning that crime. I think that once you spawn a particular crime then that crimes spawn chance needs to drop a little, but this issue will probably start clearing up once more crimes in each level are added.

IndyCision [2597200] · #9

Get some of the people currently completing the 7s to clear the 6s.

Or get them to attempt some 8s to see if they get lucky (as the 8s have much cheaper consumables than the 7s)