Post your logs! Hunt down the websocket muggers!

Wake up people, this isn't only SHAT and TNL. Nearly every single HOF faction has someone abusing websocket mug bots! Most of them have stopped or reverted to using API mug bots after the November 18 patch note announcement. Smart move, this doesn't mean you can get away with it. All mugging gains from illegal websocket based mug bots should be removed and anyone who use it needs to be reviewed.

Staff has fedded users who have used websocket bots and even consider to investigate those who have used it before November:

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ARE YOU ONE OF THE SELLERS AND TRADERS AFFECTED BY WEBSOCKET MUG BOTS? REPORT THEM NOW AND SHAME THEM!

Characteristics of suspicious websocket mugs: 

• The mug happens when you sells something in item market.
• The mugger(s) gets into the attack loader 4-15s after you sold something in item market, especially RW weapons and armors (20s+ is usually API mugs, API muggers may get lucky sometimes but usually the 30s cache will mess them up. Mugs after your hosp timer expires also don't count.)
• You're mugged by someone else who are not the buyer, someone who is the same faction as the buyer, someone who's married with the buyer (Rule out buymugs)
• The mugger(s) have mugged you repetitvely when you have sold something in item market but have not done so when you're not selling anything. (Rule out random mugs and coincidence. Rule out API muggers who manage to get one lucky ping.)

Check for logs here (Thanks Gem!):
Item Market Sell Logs: https://www.torn.com/page.php?sid=log&log=1113

Attack Mug Receive: https://www.torn.com/page.php?sid=log&log=8156

Both Combined: https://www.torn.com/page.php?sid=log&log=1113,8156

26/2/2025 - Implemented 30s delay to "market" -> "itemmarket" selection

18/11/2025 - Added tracking on potentially illegal websocket usage 

13/1/2026 - First wave of mug bot feds

Personal contribution for those who're interested. All attempted mugs done by people who are not fedded yet. (Yep I am a good mug target! Don't like your name in this list? Bounty and embargo me if you like! It is possible some are false positives.) : https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSD7TiLuVXIsakYvNDx8vnZ8BAtEBk1z4eJsJoKEQmnlpw7HDvRPA0VmF5hx9vvBSwGtK9o9HUkZx5k/pub

I need to stop making unhinged mug bot threads... 

20:35:30 - 10/01/26 You sold 1x Poison Umbrella on the Item Market to xxx for $712,499,999 after $37,500,000 in fees.

20:35:39 - 10/01/26 Skjold (and 2 others) mugged you and stole $18,738,749 [View]

There are two guys in this log not fedded

19:37:52 - 18/11/25 You sold 1x Samurai Sword on the Item Market to xxx for $332,499,999 after $17,500,000 in fees.

19:38:01 - 18/11/25 Whom (and 2 others) mugged you and stole $6,284,249 [View]

All fed here

00:10:59 - 09/11/25 You sold 1x SIG 552 on the Item Market to xxx for $379,999,999 after $20,000,000 in fees.

00:11:07 - 09/11/25 Nath and Whom mugged you and stole $11,019,999 [view]

1 fed here

12:22:16 - 07/11/25 You sold 1x BT MP9 on the Item Market to xxx for $613,699,999 after $32,300,000 in fees.

12:22:26 - 07/11/25 rdg_on (and 2 others) mugged you and stole $12,887,699 [View]

2 fed her

08:22:58 - 01/11/25 You sold 1x ArmaLite M-15A4 on the Item Market to xxx for $702,999,999 after $37,000,000 in fees.

08:23:12 - 01/11/25 Hank (and 2 others) mugged you and stole $22,500,472 [View]

1 fed here

16:28:57 - 17/10/25 You sold 1x Assault Pants on the Item Market to xxx for $137,749,999 after $7,250,000 in fees.

16:29:10 - 17/10/25 CAV and rdg_on mugged you and stole $3,398,372 [view]

1 fed here

13:41:59 - 10/10/25 You sold 1x Assault Boots on the Item Market to xxx for $96,899,999 after $5,100,000 in fees.

13:42:36 - 10/10/25 Flamer mugged you and stole $2,315,909 [view]

13:32:35 - 25/09/25 You sold 1x Yasukuni Sword on the Item Market to xxx for $265,999,999 after $14,000,000 in fees.

13:32:44 - 25/09/25 JxD and Jumbofluff mugged you and stole $10,134,599 [view]

22:21:50 - 23/09/25 You sold 1x Swiss Army Knife on the Item Market to xxx for $341,999,999 after $18,000,000 in fees.

22:22:00 - 23/09/25 Nath mugged you and stole $7,465,503 [view]

12:09:40 - 22/09/25 You sold 1x Riot Gloves on the Item Market to xxx for $95,949,999 after $5,050,000 in fees.

12:09:51 - 22/09/25 MrRightSA and SeatLeonCupra mugged you and stole $4,481,814 [view]

1 fed here

15:14:59 - 19/09/25 You sold 1x Assault Pants on the Item Market to xxx for $166,249,999 after $8,750,000 in fees.

15:15:07 - 19/09/25 _SCOFIELD_ mugged you and stole $3,283,576 [view]

17:22:52 - 18/09/25 You sold 1x Assault Helmet on the Item Market to xxx for $128,249,999 after $6,750,000 in fees.

17:23:00 - 18/09/25 _SCOFIELD_ mugged you and stole $6,193,543 [view]

15:36:23 - 17/09/25 You sold 1x Riot Helmet on the Item Market to xxx for $113,999,999 after $6,000,000 in fees.

15:36:29 - 17/09/25 _SCOFIELD_ mugged you and stole $7,432,680 [view]

03:12:48 - 15/09/25 You sold 1x Riot Body on the Item Market to xxx for $170,999,999 after $9,000,000 in fees.

04:07:28 - 15/09/25 Jokar and Whom mugged you and stole $3,214,799 [view]

1 fed here

20:12:47 - 13/09/25 You sold 1x Riot Helmet on the Item Market to xxx for $151,999,999 after $8,000,000 in fees.

20:12:57 - 13/09/25 JxD and M4T mugged you and stole $3,708,799 [view]

1 fed here

02:02:22 - 08/09/25 You sold 1x Assault Boots on the Item Market to xxx for $113,999,999 after $6,000,000 in fees.

02:02:31 - 08/09/25 Crell mugged you and stole $3,653,757 [view]

07:45:58 - 05/09/25 You sold 1x Riot Body on the Item Market to xxx for $132,999,999 after $7,000,000 in fees.

07:46:07 - 05/09/25 Whom and Offertory mugged you and stole $3,236,679 [view]

1 fed here

14:38:12 - 01/09/25 You sold 1x Assault Helmet on the Item Market to xxx for $132,999,999 after $7,000,000 in fees.

14:38:49 - 01/09/25 Violation and rdg_on mugged you and stole $3,058,999 [view]

1 fed here

15:55:21 - 28/08/25 You sold 1x Assault Gloves on the Item Market to xxx for $118,749,999 after $6,250,000 in fees.

15:55:36 - 28/08/25 Whom and Flamer mugged you and stole $2,921,249 [view]

1 fed here

00:29:46 - 19/08/25 You sold 1x Enfield SA-80 on the Item Market to xxx for $299,249,999 after $15,750,000 in fees.

00:29:55 - 19/08/25 Whom and Nath mugged you and stole $5,685,749 [view]

1 fed here

00:37:20 - 13/08/25 You sold 1x ArmaLite M-15A4 on the Item Market to xxx for $232,749,999 after $12,250,000 in fees.

00:37:29 - 13/08/25 Nath and cas3yboii mugged you and stole $9,841,624 [view]

10:05:55 - 02/08/25 You sold 1x Assault Helmet on the Item Market to xxx for $77,900,000 after $4,100,000 in fees.

10:06:02 - 02/08/25 Brizo and Gazoonou mugged you and stole $1,744,960 [view]

18:19:26 - 27/07/25 You sold 1x S&W Revolver on the Item Market to xxx for $85,500,000 after $4,500,000 in fees.

18:19:32 - 27/07/25 -Thor- mugged you and stole $2,009,250 [view]

01:16:58 - 26/07/25 You sold 1x Blunderbuss on the Item Market to xxx for $121,600,000 after $6,400,000 in fees.

01:17:41 - 26/07/25 Crell and domi69 mugged you and stole $2,590,080 [view]

Will Update more later

-Thanks

Im no computer nerd, but from my understanding looking at the timings here only the top one is a Website Sock mug. 

The others look like standard mug bot pings using api data/ legal means and your poor timekeeping/ skill issues? 

EDIT: Since added loads more logs that are pesky website socks, pairs of logs everywhere!

22:29:27 - 24/04/25 You sold a Sentinel Helmet (Immutable) on the item market to Second2none at $4,000,000,000 each for a total of $3,880,000,000 after $120,000,000 in fees

22:29:39 - 24/04/25 Brizo mugged you (with 2 others) for $402,926,264 sending you to the hospital for 0h 30m [view]

16:17:57 - 19/06/25 You sold a Sai (Rage) on the item market to OldTrashPanda at $220,000,000 each for a total of $211,200,000 after $8,800,000 in fees

16:18:11 - 19/06/25 Whom mugged you (with 1 other) for $20,210,152 sending you to the hospital for 0h 45m [view]

Of course both these cats are fedded, but they follow the pattern and therefore I DEMAND A REFUND OF THE MONEY STOLEN FROM ME BY THESE RUFFIANS

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03:57:13 - 05/01/26 Killerworm mugged you and stole $12,549,200 [view]

Sales log please? 

Not a socket mugger. I will share mine when I get some free time 😆

03:15:14 - 05/01/26 MeatBigHeader bought 11 x Six-Pack of Energy Drink from your bazaar for $132,000,000.

I'll look the way for one  minute and they got me.

Skill issue

Updated the list with low time difference between sale and mug

If i'm reading that right, isn't that  a sale at 3:15 AM and a mug at 3:57 AM? So cash on hand for 42 minutes? Slow af mugbot imo

Probably he was self hosped 

I reported a case where I suspect a mugbot was used, they said they are investigating the person. It's better for staff if you report directly instead of posting on the forum thread.

17:36:31 - 03/02/26 Hesz mugged you and stole $1,012,487 [view]

17:35:45 - 03/02/26 You sold 1x Qsz-92 on the Item Market to xxx for $46,550,000 after $2,450,000 in fees.

05:31:50 - 01/02/26 Killerworm mugged you and stole $2,757,380 [view]

05:30:57 - 01/02/26 Witzy attacked you but lost [view]

05:30:28 - 01/02/26 You sold 1x Enfield SA-80 on the Item Market to xxx for $128,250,000 after $6,750,000 in fees.

14:01:53 - 30/01/26 Hesz mugged you and stole $1,374,476 [view]

14:00:21 - 30/01/26 You sold 1x Qsz-92 on the Item Market to xxx for $60,800,000 after $3,200,000 in fees.

21:48:05 - 27/01/26 Flamer mugged you and stole $3,307,425 [view]

21:47:29 - 27/01/26 You sold 1x Sawed-Off Shotgun on the Item Market to xxx for $156,750,000 after $8,250,000 in fees.

20:30:33 - 25/01/26 LDP and Anton mugged you and stole $3,799,058 [view]

20:30:19 - 25/01/26 You sold 1x SIG 552 on the Item Market to xxx for $147,250,000 after $7,750,000 in fees.

Older mugs are mostly from the fedded people

Watching YouTube 

Same..

However its been months and both people still aren't/haven't been fedded.

In due time, I suppose.... in due time..

Snitches get stitches 

Mate respectfully you’re just going to get loads of whiny little noobs/idiots who call any mug a websocket mug

If you’ve got suspicions report someone, I did it literally 12hrs ago and staff have already replied 

14:59:43 - 30/09/25 You sold a Yasukuni Sword (Grace) on the item market to Xilbus at $160,000,000 each for a total of $152,000,000 after $8,000,000 in fees
14:59:52 - 30/09/25 _SCOFIELD_ mugged you (with 2 others) for $13,111,842 sending you to the hospital for 0h 32m [view]


13:47:42 - 27/08/25 You sold a Kodachi (Grace) on the item market to Jhnnn at $225,000,000 each for a total of $213,750,000 after $11,250,000 in fees
13:47:51 - 27/08/25 olesien mugged you (with 1 other) for $16,327,367 sending you to the hospital for 0h 44m [view]

20:33:36 - 09/10/25 You sold a Cobra Derringer (Assassinate) on the item market to xCooksy at $245,000,000 each for a total of $232,750,000 after $12,250,000 in fees
20:33:43 - 09/10/25 Zentiq mugged you for $19,193,225 sending you to the hospital for 0h 40m [view]


09:27:27 - 23/05/25 You sold a Kodachi (Grace) on the item market to ZebSimberman at $125,000,000 each for a total of $120,000,000 after $5,000,000 in fees
09:27:36 - 23/05/25 _SCOFIELD_ mugged you for $15,172,600 sending you to the hospital for 0h 41m [view]

Brizo and Hazel mugged you and stole $26,092,419 [view]

10:17:19

26/11/25

You anonymously sold 1x Luger on the Item Market to orbanrobert001 for $339,999,999 after $60,000,000 in fees.

10:16:48

26/11/25