China is a different story. They're the bullies of S.E. Asia. The Uyghurs might disagree with you about how wonderful life in China is. But we might find your long-lost buddy Lenin's dumb ass over there somewhere picking potatoes on a farm, praising Xi.
Ice - an honest question
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That is not true, Dutch police doesn't hide their identity.
Of course if there are riots etc you don't know who everybody is, but they are obligated to wear an insignia.
On the other hand, people are obligated to show their ID if the police asks for it, so it works both ways.
Guys, I kindly ask that you please focus on the topic of the protests against ICE, in the context that it is deporting people who are in the country without permission.
This thread is not pro/against Trump. It is not about the law being just or unjust. It's definitely not about Brexit lol
So: why are people protesting against a law enforcement agency enforcing the law?
The people are goi g to the EU and the USA because they offer jobs that pay much more, those people don't even have access to healthcare or other benefits, especially when they are illegal, they have zero access to those benefits
I don’t know about the US, but hundreds of people are migrating to the UAE, because they’re tax dodging scum.
I don’t know numbers from Africa, but I personally know a number of people thatve emigrated their.
No idea about SA, but I strongly suspect they have a decent level of western migration. Your mine goes further in developing countries so there’s always people looking to migrate.
So: why are people protesting against a law enforcement agency enforcing the law?
Whenever this argument comes up im reminded of the irrational mindset that wanted to let any & everyone across the border unchecked & unvetted. But felt a need to shame everyone who questioned wearing a mask, staying inside, & forcing small businesses to go broke while accepting the capitalist corporate giants they constantly bitch about to stay open & continue to profit.
Its mind numbing trying to make any sense of it.
Yeah, granted, we pay more. But they're also shocked when they see how badly we get railed on taxes & the excruciating cost of living were forced to endure.
TBH, many of us will probably have to start living like immigrants do here, 10 to 15 to a dwelling just to survive with the way inflation vs pay keeps going.
IM just glad I live in a relatively affordable area as opposed to say people in LA or NY who are paying 200 & up for a studio apt. not including food & utilities.
Well, they are probably even worse of in their home countries, normally because our countries take their resources for almost nothing so they get paid shit.
We are just seeing the beginning and will have to learn to live with less as the global south is economically growing and they also want decent payment.
Furthermore, billionaires that rule the supply chain are taking so much of the pie, we are left with crumbs, we can have a better life if we tax the shit our of them.
Your mine goes further in developing countries, so there’s always people looking to migrate.
very true.. Its why places like the Phils Thailand, Vietnam, etc. have seen a big influx in expat communities.. SHit id rather have a nice beach condo for 300 a month vs what im paying to barely survive here..
SA might still be kind of dangerous until we get the cartel assholes under control, though. I thought the UAE was mainly a haven for people who have more money than they know what to do with.
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Yup don’t even blame most expats (except the dirty tax dodging scum in the UAE) if your money goes further and you get better weather to right you should go live your best life.
UAE used to be just for rich arseholes, but now it’s for semi rich arseholes that wanna dodge tax and get on social media and complain about how the UK is a shithole because it’s falling apart. Zero self awareness as always.
Well, they are probably even worse of in their home countries, normally because our countries take their resources for almost nothing so they get paid shit.
Yes & no. Most of them think our food is shit. & my own opinion after eating food from another country, our food is unhealthy, processed, toxic shit.
We are just seeing the beginning and will have to learn to live with less as the global south is economically growing and they also want decent payment.
were already paying more to live with less. Im reminded everytime i pay my utilities, buy gas, or go to the grocery. I think most people's complaints in the U.S. currently are their pay vs inflation. & will life be sustainable here if it continues on this path.
Furthermore, billionaires that rule the supply chain are taking so much of the pie, we are left with crumbs, we can have a better life if we tax the shit our of them.
Thats kind of a double-edged sword. It annoys me that a few people literally have the power & money to stop world hunger & homelessness. But if you tax them too much, they'll just leave & take their resources with them. Maybe they should be paying more. but idk about "taxing the shit" outta them. I know if I get another tax increase on property, with the increased price of goods. Im about to say f**k this place too. I was hoping to get a few more years in & keep growing the portfolio, but at this point im paying out damn near what im making. & thats just not acceptable for me...
I think were shifting the discussion here & out of respect for Wollongong's request. Im gonna just stfu for now.
@ Wollongong. Youre not too regular here & seem to want to have a genuine discussion, so my bad for veering off course.
Lol, those few people do everything to keep the power and money in their hands
Remember that people on feudalism were off way worse than under social democracies for instance.
Those people are not going to help us, that's already very clear
Street ops, no.
Arrestatieteams, yes. Same for the guys on protection detail. Or those escorting to and from Vught.
illegal immigrants means they came here illegally. they cross the border illegally. or some tourist never left(hoping to find a job under the table) and they became illegal alien.
if you came to the country with proper procedure, w/c is applying for legal immigrant status(green card) then thats fine. thats what majority people likes who are in their right mind.
ICE probably been operating non stop since it was created. the difference right now is they are using it as a political tool.
put it this way. if someone you dont know trespassed to your property, would you let them keep doing it? even if they aint doing you no harm. if the answer is no, then its the same concept about illegal people entering the country illegally. if your answer is yes, then you should adopt more illegal immigrants to your home.
all countries have strict immigration laws. no country has an open border policy. majority of these people who are chanting let the illegals stay, they dont even want strangers live with them. its just pure virtue signaling.
No it doesn't, they can pass the border legally and overstay their Visas, actually most of them legally crossed the border.
Also, a country is not your private property, those are completely different things.
Once again (and I can’t believe this has to be said another time, countries are different to houses).
What about if your house had an agreement with all the other houses in your town that if one of you were being oppressed or being threatened in you’re houses you could go to a different house and claim asylum?
And then everyone on the street stood and clapped.
what an absolute load of shit 😂😂
the more migration the UK has received the worse* the UK has become.
From the greatest nation on earth to largest joke on earth for a reason.
on topic;
illegals vote for left wing parties. Leftism is a dying illness and they want all the votes they can possibly get.
that, and if a major right wing figure supports ANYTHING, there will be radical brain dead left who will oppose it, no matter how stupid it makes them appear.
Illegals can't vote you moron.
I'm pretty sure the UK is a tiny bit better since you don't live there anymore
You get that a “radical left wing” party in the uk is growing in popular support in response to the far right, right?
The UK has always been a left wing population as now it looks like they’re closer to taken control.
Sorry snowflake but facts and feelings aren’t the same.
Source; trust me bro.
Labour voters are switching to green. (No one is going from left to right).
Conservatives are switching to reform & restore. (Not switching from right to left)
majority are right wing. The only times the left win elections are when the voter turnout is low.
IE; 2024. 59% turnout, left have 1.4m more votes than the right (and less evenly split).
2019 67% turnout and right have 2.1M more votes than the left (without being so divided).
Sorry the truth upsets you and my posts make your blood boil.
reform & restore will be sitting in parliament in the next decade and I can’t wait to see the same faces in here crying about it. 😂
have a good evening bub xxx