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Night-Owl [3680050]

since he can't take credit for re-opening the Strait of Hormuz, Trump takes blame for keeping it closed instead, you can now blame Trump instead of Iran for the rising gas prices. When the stock market opens Monday, some people will earn some serious cash from short selling.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/12/middle-east-crisis-live-us-iran-pakistan-peace-talks-jd-vance-delegation-leaves-without-a-deal

 

 

Edit: forgot to mention this interesting aspect - https://archive.is/qCWQF

 

SaintLuke [2220265]

Sounds like he is going to fight fire with fire against Iran. Iran is trying to make money so it can continue to bomb and kill civilians. Trump decided to block the ships giving terrorist money to commit more terrorism.

Night-Owl [3680050]

sounds like you've been smoking too much weed, you're totally confused about the timeline and can't tell cause and effect apart.

Iran wasn't bombing anyone, it wasn't blocking the Strait of Hormuz, what it did was engaging in negotiations, interrupted by Trump bombing them.

and this is why Trump thinks he can get away with it, because there are voters like you with a very limited memory and attention span.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_war#Hostilities

On 27 February at 3:38 p.m. EST (11:08 p.m. IRST), Donald Trump, traveling on Air Force One to Corpus Christi, Texas, gave the order to proceed with Operation Epic Fury.[246][239] US missiles, drones, and Israeli fighter jets began striking Iran the next day, around 9:45 a.m. IRST (1:15 a.m. EST).[247][248] The strikes took place during active negotiations over Iran's nuclear program.[249][250] The attack coincided with the beginning of the holy month of Ramadan, during which Muslims fast from dawn to sunset.[251] 

Bhappychap [2270497]

A year and a half ago: 

"We aren't the world police. No new wars in Iran. If you vote Kamala, we will go to war with Iran." 

 

 

Now, the listed possible reasons so far from trump is: 

Oil 

Nuclear

 

The protestors

 



You chose to defend the 3rd reason Trump and Co gave (they gave this reason near the start of the op, it has since changed)

I haven't seen anything with this much flexibility, since flubber. 

Night-Owl [3680050]

and Trump decided to help those protesters by:

 

1. bombing a school

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack

On 28 February 2026, the first day of the 2026 Iran war, the Shajareh Tayyebeh[a] girls' elementary school[b] of the Shahrak-e Al-Mahdi neighbourhood in Minab, Hormozgan province in southern Iran was destroyed by a missile strike. According to witness accounts collaborated by satellite-based analyses, the area of the school was hit by multiple strikes.[4][5] The roof of the school collapsed on students. 156 civilians were killed, including 120 schoolchildren.[6][1][7] As of 15 March 2026, the attack was the deadliest strike in terms of civilian casualties in the ongoing war. Multiple independent investigations concluded that the United States was responsible for the strike. 

 

2. threatening to bomb bridges and power plants

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c4g5j33p6vno

 

 

3. saying that “a whole civilisation will die tonight”

 

YouTube video RDH9GcYu2Fs

 

so the question is, where are the protesters?

are there tens of thousands of protesters on the streets right now, knowing that Trump is on their side, is there drone footage of them?

SaintLuke [2220265]

No, we would have funded Iran all the way to their nuclear weapon if we voted Kamala in.

 

Iran killed 35,000 people, and it feels like everyone just wants to shrug it off. Evil won’t stop if we keep giving them more money to strengthen their military.

 

Look in the mirror at your own morals, they put flubber to shame.

 

 

Edit- forgot to say, thanks for reminding me of an old but great movie.

SaintLuke [2220265]

They helped us bring our soldiers home, which shows me they’re glad to have us there. The only ones who aren’t are those who support the IRGC, Hamas, and other terrorist groups that despise America.

ElHeffe [2564022]

You ****s hate protestors.

 

Alex Pretti and Renee Good got what was coming to them for interfering with government officials. That's the MAGA line isn't it?

 

Mike Johnson called the No Kings people "the pro-Hamas wing and, you know, the antifa people. They’re all coming out."

 

When students protested the genocide in Gaza the MAGA line was that they were traitors, they should be jailed or deported.

 

At the BLM protests MAGA called for the cops to shoot protestors dead.

 

You ****s hate protestors. So wind your f**king neck back in.

SaintLuke [2220265]

I think, unfortunately, we’ve reached this point, even if Trump didn’t intend to. Either that, or he folds and kicks the can down the road for someone else to deal with.

 

North Korea has nuclear weapons, and at this point, we’re basically stuck with the situation because we let them acquire the one weapon that stops any nation from attacking without serious risk.

Rewindz [2855264]

Kim Jung Un isn't a religious nutbag that believes in suicide bombing and concept of "all-or-nothing-convert-the-world." 

 

Kim Jung Un isn't the Islamist extremist regime.

Steppenwulf [2960257]

Trump did open the Strait... to everyone but Iran.  Since Iran was incapable of re-opening the Strait because they decided to attack commercial vessels and lay mines and they have no idea where they laid the mines, we went in and cleared a lane through the mines and we're offering safe passage to everyone...

 

BUT IRAN

 

... 

 

Why would we allow them to profit when we did the work of clearing the mines they laid?

Palestine [2578434]

His plan of everyone getting pissed at Iran and fighting his war for him failed once Iran said others can use it, but not him. What was that he was saying about "holding the world hostage"?

windyrockbell [2805009]

Nothing has changed in terms of Iran's capabilities to stop traffic in the strait. It wasn't just mines, the threat of missiles and drones flying into the Strait is sufficient to deter most ships from risking passage. I'll wait to actually see if any ships actually pass through.

Palestine [2578434]

Let's see if any of the ships get pirated as well. 

 

All of a sudden we will hear, "so and so has so graciously provided us with this and that". 

EddieLee706 [1591144]

I promise you they didnt get all the mines. Hell when I was In Basra, Iraq in 2009. They were still detonating uxos from the Iran/Iraq war of the 80s...... 

 

Like Windy said, Iran capabilities is beyond just laying mines. Most commercial ships are currently not interested in going through with the threat of drones and missiles still existing. 

 

Trump could claim this and that but hes not the one who has to sail theough those contested waters. 

 

Its still a stupid ass strategy when Trump got dragged into this because his buddy Netanyahu told him too. He just trying to save face and pressure Iran. Hes acting like a petulant child who doesn't get his way. This has gone piss poorly.