4D chess

the constant threat of execution by an oppressive regime

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You dopey ****s really will say any old sh*te, won't you?

Its crazy how people like you criticize America selectively but dont speak out against Irans crimes against humanity just the same.

Believe it or not, I don't live there. 

Everyone's got opinions on what America should do

I served in the military for decades, and lived here most of my life. 

 but its not our place to critiquing Iran for murdering tens of thousands of unarmed people in a weekend over free speech

I think its horrible. But I also didn't vote for someone campaigning as "America is not the world police". 

Yall want to seek American aid in Ukraine when it benefits US allies

Ukraine, being attacked by another country, is not the same as Iran's government, doing stuff on it's citizen's. 

but refuse to aid the same alliance when called upon. 

Again, I wasn't supporting someone campaigning on "no new wars" and "if you vote Kamala, there will be a war in Iran"

In fact, most of my comments have been around the absolute failure of a military campaign. If we are going to play world police, then we have entire teams of people thinking of ways to do it efficiently and "well" for a war. Trump didn't do any of that. 

We see your double standards and impartial bias time and time again. 

If you have the intelligence of an 5th grader, sure. 

 So yeah we stopped caring what you call us, someones got to make the difficult decisions and youre too emotional to do it

Traitor-felon-pedophile supporting nimwits that are either, evil or plainly stupid? 

I think the Iranian people would prefer not to be bombed by the US, I think they would prefer the US doesnt bomb schools killing 165+ schoolgirls, I think the Iranian people would prefer that the us/israel didnt bomb oil refineries causing oil to rain down in Tehran causing gulf war syndrome in future years.

The average Iranian doesnt want their hospital, mosques and synagogues bombed, they want their roads and railways intact, they want drinking water from their desalination plants and power from their power plants, the dont want nuclear fallout from the us bombing their nuclear power plants. You cant fo humanitarian bombing on a population and the Iranians dont think it's great that thousands have died because of hubris from American fools.

Since you bring up Hitler, he is famous for starting wars and committing genocide, right now israel and the us are the ones starting wars and  committing genocide, if you want to prevent fascist warmongerers you'd start from your home.

The selective outrage of criticising the Iranian government for killing Iranian civilians while you cheer on the us and israeli government killing civilians - i've criticised both which is something you cannot claim

You sure? Literally every ACTUAL Iranian thats conveyed sentiments in these threads have explicitly stated otherwise. Its always Muslims and Europeans telling everyone else what Iranians REALLY think. Have you considered that every Iranian isnt an Islamic extremists by default? Thats sorta why dissent and the ongoing executions of dissenters is still taking place

Yeah weeks ago before they got bombed for weeks with no regime change, schools and hospitals destroyed. Their civilization threatened to be destroyed and sent back to the Stone Age.

However much support the US had for strikes at the start of this, I’d be it’s far less after weeks of the same with no real change, well, aside from having two groups potentially killing them instead of one.

It’s embarrassing watching you try hide behind some moral high ground when your own administration isn’t even attempting to change the regime long term anymore. To think Donald Trump cares about Iranians when threatening to send them back to the Stone Age is a joke lmao.

You say we’re bad people for not encouraging more bombs and saving the Iranian people and yet your administration was over there trying to negotiate a ceasefire with those very people? 

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Here is a picture of ACTUAL Iranians digging out the dead bodies of the 165+ schoolgirls Murdered by the us/israel I guarantee it, I f**king guarantee it that they arent thinking "gee I'm sure glad the benevolent us have murdered all these children, this'll surely end the regime!"

These are actual human beings that are being murdered by the us, devastated parents who will carry this pain and grief for as long as they live, children like Zahra Behroozi, a 8 year old girl that was murdered, she had her entire life ahead of her before the US stole that from her, her mother was waiting for her getting out of school.

You can't support bombing Iranians and then try and pretend you care about their wellbeing, crocodile tears while you cheer on their destruction. Murdering a man then crying at his funeral

You're entire argument hinges on the assumption that the people dont want our intervention, or at least in this manner. While we see the IRGC condemning the US, what we dont hear from is the Iranian people. Because their voices are being suppressed by the IRGC. Now WHY would the IRGC need to suppress the people's ability to speak if theyre also denouncing the US? 

Meanwhile, every one of Irans neighbors is pleading and/or PAYING the US to not stop until the IRGC is disbanded altogether. Sounds like everyone involved understands the threat and whats at stake, while ignorant people like you like to posture online for moral clout. How many times do Iranians need to hop in here to tell you to piss off qnd stop speaking for them before you take a hint

Its a tragedy, just as the tens of thousands that died weeks before at IRGC hands is also a tragedy as well as the people being executed every day still. If US backs off, the killing of the people STILL doesnt just stop. It just means the people with be ruthlessly hunted down amd murdered by their own government unchecked

An earthquake is a tragedy, the US repeatedly bombing schools is a war crime. Blowing up more children doesnt slow down any killing  you cant claim the high ground when your hands are overflowing with blood, as posted earlier your glorious leader claims "a whole civilisation will die tonight" that's a genocidal claim and that isnt concern for the Iranian people.

You cannot claim to care about the Iranian people as you support the murder of thousands of Iranians and the complete destruction of their country, people suffering from gulf war syndrome wont be thankful, parents with dead children wont be gracious, orphans growing up wont praise the us for their humanitarian bombs.

"Oh no we bombed a school again, how sad" claims unclel for the 100th time, I'm sure those dead children appreciate your support of the bombs dropped on them.

I didn't even mention this, not only do they want to cripple Iran's economy, but they have no concern at all for the environmental and health effects.
but somehow I'm supposed to believe they care about protesters...

and seeing how they lie as they breathe, I'm supposed to ever trust their words again and not assume they're just a form of deceit. 

it is human nature to assume sincerity, up to a point.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/27/irans-black-rain-is-latest-grim-example-of-weather-in-war-zones 
Black rain fell in Iran earlier this month, a grim phenomenon seen previously in other war zones.
Strikes on oil facilities burned thousands of tons of stored fuel. Unlike the clean controlled combustion inside an engine, uncontrolled burning leaves many particles of unburned fuel, producing a pall of toxic smoke over affected areas.
The particulate matter rises on the hot updraft from the fire and effectively seeds rainclouds, with the particles forming nuclei for raindrops. The resulting dirty rainfall helps clean the air, but potentially harmful pollutants may end up in drinking water.
Similar black rain occurred after oil wells in Kuwait were set ablaze during the 1991 Gulf war.
The most severe form of black rain fell in Hiroshima a few hours after the atomic bombing. This was a mix of radioactive ash and water, with almost the consistency of tar. In some cases the Hiroshima rain was so radioactive it burned exposed skin.
The black rain in Iran is less dangerous, but likely contains pollutants such as benzene, acetone, toluene and methylene chloride, all of which can cause cancer. It may also damage vegetation including crops. If strikes continue and more oil sites are hit black rain may fall again, and the after-effects will last long after the conflict is over.

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Ok get back to me when the US actually removed the IRGC then.

My entire point you moron is that removing them would be cool, but that’s not happening nor is America even trying to do it at this point. So acting like some self righteous idiot while your own country threatens to destroy a civilization really just makes you look beyond stupid.

It looks to me they’re trying to make peace with the IRGC and move on leaving the Iranian people in the same place with less schools, hospitals, supplies and everything else. But keep shouting from your high horse about how anyone who questions if repeatedly bombing a country is a terrorist lover or whatever 

"The US repeatedly bombing schools" Talk about bad faith jeez. Where exactly are these other schools? 

Oh thank God you reminded me what im permitted to say. I almost had an actual opinion 😂 Do you honestly think Iranians have moved past the genocide a month later and forgiven their oppressors? The US bomb was a tragic mistake. The IRGC giving the order to murder tens of thousands in a weekend was VERY INTENTIONAL. We are not the same

So your stance on chastising the IRGC for mass murder is what, a strongly worded letter? People literally begging the international community for aid as theyre MURDERED and you'll criticize America for acting while the rest of the world looked away and postured without actually taking action. Anyone advocating inaction is a coward who refuses to stand up for the oppressed unless its PR for the camera. Coward. Shame on you

And the alternative is.... feel free to teach the world as you know better than us all. Stop being so selfish by keeping your miraculous peaceful solutions to yourself. Couldn't do a Venezuela on him bc as you guys keep pointing out, killing IRGC leadership just means more take their place. Khomeini is dead, and its not over, so just removing obviously wasn't enough 

Teach us the way oh wise one 

So your answer is? A futile war that changes nothing, does damage to the global economy and sets back the Iranian people? You know you don’t have to start bombing countries just because you don’t know what to do. 

I mean, it’s literally not even a goal of your government anymore, you can’t act like they’re giving it a good college try and failing in the hopes of saving Iranians. It’s literally just not about that so why pretend that it is?

Long term regime and positive change there would be a humongous and costly effort, which everyone knows, and that they sit on one of the world’s most important waterways. Almost like most nations in the world have try gamed this attack out and realized it would end flat on its ass like Americas has.

Sorry I forgot you destroyed their prehistoric navy so total mission success well done.

Teach us the way oh wise one.

I’m starting to feel like the IDF and Hamas are basically the same.

How about the 35,000 innocent civilians they killed? How about all the people they toss off buildings and hang from cranes?

How about the attempts to and actions taken to blow up civilian ships?

Are you really going to act this foolish? I’m trying to get better, I truly am, but good lord, you make it so difficult.

As for the support of the IRGC, just everything you have said about America stepping up when the rest of the world decided to be cowards and let 35,000 innocent people be killed. While also learning, Iran now has missiles that can reach most European countries and have every intent to kill the west.

North Korea having nuclear weapons is one of the biggest mistakes the world has ever made.

If we oppose mass murder we should probably send US troops to stop the mass murdering, right?

I see you offered no alternative solutions. I believe you at least understand that there is no easy solution, or even good solution. What you dont seem to be considering regarding the response being to engage in war is that there are multiple reasons to do so. The slaughter of protesters was just the straw that broke the camels back (sorry if youre not a native English speaker and the phrase doesn't make sense)

We've been saying this entire time that regime change isnt an objective. Itd be a nice by-product, but thats up to the people

We've got 350B into Ukraine already 🤷‍♂️ This war actually benefits us. You can see how global energy demand has shifted to US markets with Iran disabled and blockaded. Seeing as oil is Iran's top export, thats going to rupture their economy. Inevitably this dominoes to the countries that depend on that oil. Russias ability to wage war on Ukraine will be taking a hit with Venezuela and Iran out of the picture. Dont forget how monopolies work. If Trump succeeds, hes dramatically weakening every single one of his adversaries and securing America as a world power with the ability to cripple world economy on a whim. Truly a terrifying thought and Ive never been prouder to be an American. 

Once he locks in Crypto federally, itll REALLY get fun. No spoilers on that yet though 😈 We've gotta bring Canada and Mexico into the fold real quick

Russias ability to wage war on Ukraine will be taking a hit with Venezuela and Iran out of the picture

We lifted oil sanctions on Russia to try to maintain gas prices and they're benefiting from the higher global prices to boot.