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Omanpx [1906686]

Skibidi

 

Faction Name BBS Level Networth Stats Time Played Reason Duration
The Silent Rebellion (SR) TossedRelic60 [3966751] 1.76 31 3.52b 289.33k 14d 6H 0M 37S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
TNU - Headquarters (TNU) Dery2k [3713293] 0.29 19 585.77m 75.4k 3d 6H 27M 22S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Endless Endeavor (—EE—) DarkSketch0 [4213057] 0.05 5 108.12m 162 4H 57M 11S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Endless Endeavor (—EE—) Priyasharma [4215782] 0.04 9 89.64m 287 13H 20M 14S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Jokerz Cathsuuup [4127044] 0.04 14 80.68m 2.68k 1d 7H 31M 39S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Jokerz JSABxx [4055221] 0.01 20 23.34m 8.44k 2d 20H 55M 10S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 14 days
Animal Sanctuary (RAWR) ZeroWinRate [4255918] 0.03 3 61.43m 766 6H 32M 9S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
ROMAN EMPIRE (ROM) Irizu [4223413] 0.02 15 43.1m 9.88k 2d 0H 56M 7S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Steel City Soldiers (SCS) skipatar1 [4192721] 0.02 15 39.29m 8.34k 1d 21H 32M 45S Account held until further notice In federal jail temporarily
tsac (tsac) Danisuu [4242958] 0.01 13 27.17m 3.43k 1d 5H 10M 32S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
The Sons Of Anarchy Sdsnclr [4178389] 0.01 16 19.67m 10.12k 11H 34M 57S Obscenity In federal jail for 3 days
X Corps TamamoCross [4245141] 0 7 3.63m 4.58k 7H 40M 21S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Death Before Dishonour (DBD) John7777 [2990592] 0 18 2.7m 92.17k 12H 15M 54S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
DUKE'S OF YORK (DUKE) a1berio [3957941] 0 27 107.54k 163.57k 3d 19H 15M 54S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
None -Juswa [4221496] 0.02 8 31.1m 26 18H 55M 24S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None Milake123 [3582142] 0.01 11 22.6m 40.82k 1d 6H 7M 46S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 30 days
None CRG23 [4189406] 0 6 3.19m 31.88k 11H 21M 49S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently


Total Networth 'frozen': 4.66b
Total Time wasted: 35d 12H 35M 51S
BBS - Big Boy Score. Increased by 1 for every 2b NW or 1b Stats.

Mentions: -Juswa [4221496] · a1berio [3957941] · Cathsuuup [4127044] · CRG23 [4189406] · Danisuu [4242958] · DarkSketch0 [4213057] · Dery2k [3713293] · Irizu [4223413] · John7777 [2990592] · JSABxx [4055221] · Milake123 [3582142] · Priyasharma [4215782] · Sdsnclr [4178389] · skipatar1 [4192721] · TamamoCross [4245141] · TossedRelic60 [3966751] · ZeroWinRate [4255918] · Animal Sanctuary [55485] · BANDAIDS df BULLET HOLES [55609] · Death Before Dishonour [50836] · Endless Endeavor [14686] · Jokerz [38482] · ROMAN EMPIRE [56171] · Steel City Soldiers [53833] · The kings valour [56342] · The New Uprising [7074] · The Silent Rebellion [55961] · The Sons Of Anarchy [52387] · tsac [54616]

Omanpx [1906686]

Again with the notes! At least we got some more interesting reasons this time.

 

Faction Name BBS Level Networth Stats Time Played Reason Duration
Cortex (CTX) Tye97 [4089317] 0.65 28 1.31b 97.39k 12d 23H 1M 15S Staff see notes In federal jail for 7 days
Cortex (CTX) court97 [4099390] 0.02 25 42.42m 15.58k 2d 17H 19M 44S Staff see notes In federal jail for 7 days
Imperial Goblin Shogunate (IGS) myrmidonx [2229610] 0.48 50 969.16m 1.19m 14d 12H 2M 12S Multiple Accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Pixie Sticks Syndicate Joepest [1006085] 0.26 39 527.97m 281.73k 11d 22H 44M 29S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
FlaTOut (F.O) DXB_TeRRoR [1603372] 0.27 40 510.43m 5.25m 39d 3H 23M 7S Automated scripting In federal jail permanently
Prive Cartel Wifie01 [4100756] 0.08 21 160.16m 20.38k 6d 9H 18M 59S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Radiation (FF8) N3blem [4080479] 0.06 19 110.68m 27.11k 7d 17H 19M 21S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Cyber Warfare (CW) drewster6 [4091592] 0.05 23 100.07m 17.14k 3d 4H 25M 57S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
The Iron Forge (OO) Cecilya [4134570] 0.03 15 58.7m 4.58k 13H 12M 51S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
The Black Hand Syndicate (TBHS) saira_kotori [4046808] 0.03 22 53.58m 9.08k 1d 5H 33M 52S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 14 days
Jokers N Tokers SteiiaXIII [4170511] 0.02 18 47.49m 3.12k 15H 4M 56S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Jokers N Tokers Disith[4113742] 0.01 20 22.59m 9.18k 2d 0H 42M 2S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Soulzy TRLG [2920032] 0.02 18 43.5m 219.26k 17H 16M 26S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
WIT-Horizon (WIT) Nikkysnickers [4218502] 0.02 18 40.45m 21.6k 2d 19H 30M 28S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Maverick Hounds (MH) Makisekurisu04 [4179323] 0.02 10 32.71m 26 5H 25M 55S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Blade Synths (BS) briminal420 [3708921] 0.01 18 29.96m 14.1k 2d 0H 13M 34S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Blade Synths (BS) Gringo420 [4189156] 0 10 4.72m 5.48k 23H 11M 4S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Ghost Runners of Fire (GRF) Cat_Fish [4252065] 0.01 6 28.1m 766 6H 30M 19S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Spider-Verse (SV) Kajaky [4216818] 0.01 11 24.39m 5.06k 13H 35M 2S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Leeches (LECH) ReinCapital [4207618] 0.01 15 22.04m 8.06k 1d 18H 10M 3S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Leeches (LECH) Nightwash [4212105] 0 15 8.82m 498 19H 59M 32S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Rastafari Aje [2918497] 0.01 23 17.22m 29.94k 1d 2H 54M 43S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Blood Coven EZEdna [4155922] 0.01 12 11.73m 7.93k 15H 19M 10S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
The Frenzied Caravan (CRVN) Hunteroverall [4202381] 0 13 9.89m 5.62k 1d 1H 2M 15S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
The Frenzied Caravan (CRVN) ahmed250 [4207088] 0 11 5.91m 26 13H 24M 28S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
HAL 9000 BottomCop [4230351] 0 8 8.08m 7.19k 2d 11H 23M 30S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Concordia Invictus (CCA) DoveAid [4238459] 0 9 7.16m 2.21k 16H 57M 49S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Glory to Heroes (GTH) Diale [4235465] 0 10 6.5m 660 1d 4H 33M 19S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
Closed Door Deals LLC (CDD) Heisen_b3rg [4221713] 0 8 4.68m 26 8H 14M 0S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
The Mad Order (TMO) ak-lover [4244401] 0 9 3.56m 235 1d 2H 23M 41S Multiple Accounts Infederal jail for 7 days
Balls of Steel MC (BoS) Aidenalyla [4243294] 0 8 1.89m 243 14H 49M 13S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Brotherhood of Darkness (BoD) Aliema [4240837] 0 9 1.27m 27 21H 17M 21S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
L'Artiglio di Ferro (LAF) Viona_ [4205924] 0 4 553k 844 27M 21S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
L'Artiglio di Ferro (LAF) VicTo_ [4144584] 0 5 367.57k 315 1H 46M 45S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
L'Artiglio di Ferro (LAF) QueenBe_ [4204216] 0 3 94.97k 26 16M 0S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Ninja's Boot Camp (NBC) SassySoba [4258187] 0 3 750 766 33M 25S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
Mario Party (MP) Kaoki [4189900] 0 12 -47.15k 3.06k 1d 7H 25M 7S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
None Deimos01 [2573408] 0.23 25 465.12m 23.02k 4d 18H 47M 20S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None PhobosY [3984181] 0.06 19 126.09m 10.1k 1d 6H 42M 36S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None Fuukyuu [4186404] 0.04 15 76.02m 4.41k 2d 19H 15M 23S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None -Corin- [4148274] 0.02 12 36.69m 2.37k 15H 29M 2S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
None Zander5000 [4201978] 0.01 4 17.05m 26 12H 17M 7S Multiple accounts In federal jail for 7 days
None Supernumerary [2533757] 0.01 10 14.37m 131.22k 4H 36M 16S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None Diabloinador [2826359] 0.01 11 13.37m 40.22k 4H 47M 13S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None justinjay [4249897] 0.01 9 12.92m 2.85k 17H 28M 23S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None HyperLuck [2828566] 0.01 13 12.18m 169.2k 12H 22M 42S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None Hachisaku [2533738] 0 15 7.21m 42.95k 13H 44M 59S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None Peepspeen [4171844] 0 6 1.99m 302 1H 45M 3S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently
None tsukumo [4213504] 0 4 894.32k 30 29M 21S Account marked for deletion In federal jail permanently


Total Networth 'frozen': 5.01b
Total Time wasted: 137d 14H 34M 40S
BBS - Big Boy Score. Increased by 1 for every 2b NW or 1b Stats.

Mentions: -Corin- [4148274] · ahmed250 [4207088] · Aidenalyla [4243294] · Aje [2918497] · ak-lover [4244401] · Aliema [4240837] · BottomCop [4230351] · briminal420 [3708921] · Cat_Fish [4252065] · Cecilya [4134570] · court97 [4099390] · Deimos01 [2573408] · Diabloinador [2826359] · Diale [4235465] · Disith [4113742] · DoveAid [4238459] · drewster6 [4091592] · DXB_TeRRoR [1603372] · EZEdna [4155922] · Fuukyuu [4186404] · Gringo420 [4189156] · Hachisaku [2533738] · Heisen_b3rg [4221713] · Hunteroverall [4202381] · HyperLuck [2828566] · Joepest [1006085] · justinjay [4249897] · Kajaky [4216818] · Kaoki [4189900] · Makisekurisu04 [4179323] · myrmidonx [2229610] · N3blem [4080479] · Nightwash [4212105] · Nikkysnickers [4218502] · Peepspeen [4171844] · PhobosY [3984181] · QueenBe_ [4204216] · ReinCapital [4207618] · saira_kotori [4046808] · SassySoba [4258187] · SteiiaXIII [4170511] · Supernumerary [2533757] · TRLG [2920032] · tsukumo [4213504] · Tyler_ [4089317] · VicTo_ [4144584] · Viona_ [4205924] · Wifie01 [4100756] · Zander5000 [4201978] · AEGIS NOCTURNE [49776] · Balls of Steel MC [49122] · Blade Synths [52285] · Blood Coven [52984] · Brotherhood of Darkness [49763] · Concordia Invictus [54073] · CoreLabs [51197] · Cyber Warfare [46127] · DEADLINE [52230] · FlaTOut [44145] · Ghost Runners of Fire [54886] · Glory to Heroes [16057] · HAL 9000 [56226] · Jokers N Tokers [53573] · L'Artiglio di Ferro [56163] · Leeches [15083] · Maverick Hounds [53546] · Neon Vanguard [54386] · Organised Misconduct [55951] · Prive Cartel [51393] · Radiation [52873] · Rastafari [54258] · Royal Outlaws [54123] · Shadow Reapers BRC [24884] · Soulzy [55037] · Spider-Verse [52355] · The Black Hand Syndicate [41269] · The Mad Order [50279] · THE ONYX COVENANT. [48654] · WIT-Horizon [41363]

IreatVoss [2804165]

Back2back omanposting!?  Is this thread dead?
also where is spastic _all_father whit ”release the staff note files” posting?!

Htr [89581]

Many people asked, so I have to respond that I was in fed jail for "abetting".
The abetting rule concerns knowingly doing something. I did not know about cheating or multis. I did not gain or intend to gain anything financially.
I get contacted by a lot of newbies daily, especially when I paid for slutting. So I started offering 150m for a referral to get the Pyramid Scheme merit. TravieTime [4138139] said he referred his sister EmilyLov3sDaddy [4176436], hoping to earn the 150m. He used the wrong link, so I didn't get the merit, but still paid 150m. 

Then, without asking, he referred 2 more people:



The staff said the burden is on me to check if it looks suspicious. I am not shy of reporting suspicious behaviour (as I have done in the past), but to me, there has to be something like similar login times, something they said etc., before I am comfortable reporting. The staff mentioned EmilyLuvsDaddy [4176330] in the report as a way for me to see their similar names, but I have never seen or heard of that player before, nor do I properly check the names of some random newbies. I started checking their progress in my referrals and noticed they had the same offline time, and before I could check more, the staff put me in fed.
Also, about a month ago, I paid for bulk losses to some dicrod channel owner at 30m per 100 losses. Never checked any of the names or profiles attacking me, by this logic, I could be guilty of abetting. 

You can see the fed report here:

Mentions: EmilyLov3sDaddy [4176436] · EmilyLuvsDaddy [4176330] · TravieTime [4138139]

Dsla [2807954]

Problem too is if you report something you think is against the rules they set you up w/ wording like this so they can ban your ass in the future if you report something and they claim its "facetious" reports

 

Avery [2765920]

This is really interesting to me. I kinda see the logic, but its very "hindsight's 20/20" isn't it? No shit once you're told that someone's book club is made of multis you'll go "yeah that makes sense" but until you know, its just a normal way to recruit players isn't it? Get friends from an IRL social club to start playing?

 

The only point against you IMO is Emily(Luvs/Lov3s)Daddy, once they're in your referred player list, I do think that's a fairly noticeable one. (Edit- reread, only one name was in your referred list, so this is moot.)

 

I dunno, I've previously agreed with the abetting rule, but this enforcement of it feels weird to me. You never asked someone to make multis, you had no knowledge of the multis, the only thing working against you is you didn't stalk some newbies profiles. At that stage though, lock you up for enticement, right? Offering newbies massive cash to break rules?

Omanpx [1906686]

You should have pleaded the 'under duress' card - it's basically a get out of jail free card even if you straight up break multiple rules and lie to everyone about it.

 

Worn-out jokes aside, looks like a classic staff fail - fed was totally unwarranted, could have stripped the merit (if you got it) and give a warning. It was pretty obvious you didn't intend for them to make multies just for the referrals.

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor

Every time I read a Torn City Staff reply I remember why they're all anonymised lol, what a tedious person and response. 

 

The burden is never on the player to decide what is suspicious and what isn't, that's why they're a player. Christ. If you get a good samaritan that decides to do some of your work for you, that's a bonus not a given.

 

Seems like someone was feeling a little bored and jobsworth in this instance, or Torn would actually make a habit to go after the hundreds of players (myself having done it the most!) who have employed the thousands of loss slutters, statistically many of whom are probably committing some offence or another including multi accounts, RMT etc. Abetting for everyone!

 

If Torn is struggling so much with such minute offences though, perhaps it can finally hire some f**king moderators instead of a volunteer workforce, after all these years and approaching 100,000 daily players. 

 

Breadfan [361121]

I see both sides in the report. 

Some of these noobs are motivated and have deep pockets. 

If the referrals were legit, I wouldn't be surprised. 

If they weren't, I wouldn't be surprised. 

Thats a sting I wouldn't want to get caught up in. 

Jtester [2477772]

As much as I’d love to see a big NW get fedded for something juicy, that is one of the most pathetic fed reasons to date for abetting without a doubt.

 

But don’t worry, they’ll give a 10 year player a 7 day fed because they cheated poorly and got caught early on even knowingly breaking a rule.


Another day of shitty ass torn moderation, another day I’m glad I stopped giving them money out of my own pocket. 

New players are at an all time high and they still can’t afford to hire and train people with brains. One has to assume that more money has to be coming into the game, yet none of it seems to be reflected on services and quality for the player base.

 

Pinguux [2331130]

"You should have pleaded the 'under duress' card - it's basically a get out of jail free card even if you straight up break multiple rules and lie to everyone about it."

 

Hemigidius [2157705]

What a retarded reply, how the f**k would you have known it wasn't legit? Does this staffer not understand book clubs are real? I bet many new players came here from referals from different clubs/groups.

PrincessJulie [11229] Admin Staff

What it ultimately comes down to though is that the referral system was never meant to be gamed like this. Referrals are meant to reward players for bringing their friends and family to the game. They aren't supposed to be merits that you can purchase. 

 

As soon as you start paying people to refer others for you, you're opening yourself up to the possibility that you're paying someone to cheat on your behalf. You benefitted from the cheating, and you paid for it to happen. 

Hemigidius [2157705]

Then remove it or make it against the rules to pay for referals, don't blame your players when they are bringing players into the game for the company to profit from, sure multis and rule breakers will 100% slip through, but that's the same with any signup system.

Jypo [3795276]

He wouldn’t have benefitted if the referral was removed, he’d of been down whatever he paid out. You obviously then had an issue that the amount he paid out was a drop in the ocean for Htr’s networth.

 

Maybe someone from the admin team wants to google the term “abetting”. Google is free.

shak [1592807]

You can "purchase" a lot of merits. Unless you start seperating them into catagories you can purchase and not purchase then that is a bit of a strange thing to say.

Htr [89581]

I get it, but paying for referrals is NOT illegal. I asked around before doing it, and the staff member himself said in the report.

I did not benefit from his cheating in any way, did not gain merit, and sent him 150m.

rabbit [1995921]

Oman and his vengeance seeking messages of "see staff notes" will never end. Your friends cheated, you aided them, put your big boy pants on and grow up. Cheats are cheats regardless of faction fyi, doesn't matter who or where they come from.