Stop gamblers from abusing RW protection.

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As much as I agree with the abuse of termed war protection for traders and gamblers, you won’t win this argument brother, muggers always lose and there’s nothing you can do to make them change your mind 

Crying cause you cannot mug people?

i would understand if you were complaining if you are always warring and not happy that people stay in hosp for 2-3 days which destroys the “fun” of war.

anyway 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

its funny how ppl dont like us whining about what effect us. but the same ppl whining the most about what is effecting them .

frankly if someone wants to pay money for mercs to make it difficult for another player to play the game for a little bit they should be able to

its kinda absurd that ED exists to be a very cheap infinite use protection - and i have no idea why you think of all groups of people that faction bankers should be exempt lol

There is a pretty simple compromise.

Only allow the 60-second protection to trigger when the hospital time was caused by an attack, whether it was an inside or outside hit.

The protection should then be voided if the player uses medical items, a revive, or Early Discharge to reduce their hospital time.

This would still protect factions from having to compete with mercs for offline farming targets, which was the original purpose of both the 60-second protection and Early Discharge. If the player is online and plans to med out, they can already coordinate with a merc and join a wall to bypass the protection. Nothing really changes if they coordinate before medding out, except this removes the need to abuse the wall mechanic in a way it was never intended to be used.

This would allow both mechanics to function closer to intended while removing the parts currently being abused for mug and bounty protection.

"having to"... this already starts with completely wrong mindset... NOBODY HAS TO RW weekly or even once every 2 weeks... its all up to players how often they war.

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Youd have like handful of diamond rank factions in that deathmatch mode, rest are farming pinata and saving money and stats for torn 2.0. 

lol! What a joke! 

I don’t war nor do I gamble. I do laugh at whiners who sit around poker tables looking for targets.  I love that there are players that won’t get mugged by whiners.  I love that they are smart enough to utilize systems put in place to extend their length of security. Sucks to be a money grubbing mugger who can’t figure out how to find unprotected victims.  

Please consult successful muggers who’ve figured it out.  POPs might have a tip or two for you.  

Geez imagine if HoF factions didn't just spend years earning bank mercing other people's wars?

HoF factions were terming their own wars and doing the bare minimum for max rewards, then mercing on other people's wars and doing more hits there for additional cash.

It's kind of hilarious to see how many mug bot using people are in here furious that their bot is pinging them only for the person to have outside hit protection...

Yes exactly. 

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He is doing just fine on his own. In fact, he's mugged more money in a year and a half than you've accumulated in over 18 years of playing Torn. 

"I don't think anyone should be exempt from mercs, but fake walls are a tactic to enable faction banking if there's a disruption."

this is dumb, fake walls should not exist and are so very far from the intended implementation of the feature - people should be using walls to gain and concede territory, not a near infinite protection from having to spend more than 5 seconds in hospital:

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i don't think anyone can look at this and think its a good use of a feature, 22m in bounties bypassed with just 55 energy - utter absurdity

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"If you don't think it should be used then....why did you use it..." obviously not gonna leave yourself at a disadvantage while others use it thats just common sense, mate

His point is that it shouldn't be a thing in general, like many mechanics that are meant to be for certain aspects of the game but manipulated into others

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And yet he whines! Do you see the disconnect there?  If he is still here in a year I will be surprised. He seems  out for a good time not a long time.