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Pride bigots...

Started by Sweeney_Todd [27468] on in Graveyard.

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Apolinus [3017918]

No, I don’t think that’s really it exactly.

 

It’s more nuanced.   Ched invented Torn when he was 15.  He has no COO experience and never hired one, so he’s got huge operational blind spots.  bogie is a likeable sort when he’s not staff, so he got hired as the CM.   But having players as admins creates an inherent conflict of interest, so bogie has been placed in a position where he can’t help but rankle the community.  There will always be suspicions of bias and unfairness as long as he has a player account.

 

This, along with some poor staff decision making along the way, has created a scenario where the person in the position responsible for maintaining positive community engagement manifestly dislikes the community he manages.   He’s openly abandoned the fedded archives thread and goes on unchecked public rants about the players.  And he’s the leader, so you can imagine the impact on his team.

 

The reason homophobes get booted faster than almost anyone else is less political and more exasperation.  Overt homophobia is a bit more prevalent these days than, say, overt racism.  Being homophobic is still a way to virtue signal masculinity in the minds of homophobes.  So every time there’s a Pride month, these fuckers come out of the woodwork.  I think the slightly unhinged (for reasons above) staff is just so fucking over it that their patience threshold is lower for this than other things.  In other words, the ‘homophobic community’ has raised the ire of an admin staff who are free to do almost whatever they want.

Odin-All-Father [2010524]

I agree mostly, but Both of our posts can be true.

 

’you don’t agree with me politically so I’m removing you from our society’ is fascism. 

I’ve received forum bans for saying the EXACT same thing that others have said to me, but my reports were ‘this player hasn’t broken the rules’ responses.

 

the staff are incompetent, inconsistent, biased, worthless cu** fascists.

 

At first I was annoyed by the pride ‘event’, but ultimately I don’t give a shit because the game has gotten so much worse and is managed by a bunch of fuckin cockwombles that I just expect useless & pointless shit on this game.

 

it ain’t a mystery that the more this game is becoming bogies ‘sand box’ (as Mike put it), the games been declining and retention rates are low. 

Keep politics out of games if ya want a neutral community.

ChillySpunc [1905415]

"The games been declining and retention rates are low" The game has reached nearly 110k players, crimes 2.0 has finally been released, OCs 2.0 is out, they're working on hunting, travelling and several other significant back-end changes. The game is going from strength to strength.

 

Torn staff definitely get it wrong quite often but they also get it right pretty often too so maybe, just maybe, you're the inconsistent, biased, worthless **** cockwomble.

 

Gay presentation isn't political, it's acknowledging gay people exist, acknowledging the hate they face and saying that people who spread that sort of hate will face consequences.

 

If you hate all of this so much, just leave? No one is forcing you to stay, I'm sure with the thousands of new players every month you won't be missed.

 

Also, just to respond to your first post, I'd much rather be woke than be whatever hateful loser you seem to be.

Odin-All-Father [2010524]

110k players, 80% of them in smth, if you’re ignorant and believe any bollocks then that’s a you problem.

 

crimes 2.0 has finally been released aye, after announcing it 15 years ago but they was too busy putting rainbows in pages and looking for power trips instead.

 

Everyone acknowledges gay people exist, it’s very obvious this shit is done as a honey trap, it isn’t to muster support and show love and appreciation, it’s to give the mods a moment where they don’t feel like the useless wankers that they are and throw their hammer around.

 

if you really wanted people to not see homophobia, you wouldn’t make homosexuals the unavoidable topic for a month.

 

i know you’d rather be woke, because you’re a fucking clown, but like I said, thank god the world is returning back to normal and your clown mindset is the minority.

ChillySpunc [1905415]

In your own words "If you're ignorant and believe any bollocks then that's a you problem" this applies to everything you've just said.

 

Looking at your forum posts it's pretty clear that you're a bitter little loser with nothing meaningful to offer society so all you do is spread hate. It's funny you compare being "woke" to being a clown because the only clown like behaviour is coming from you.

 

People like you are nothing but beta snowflakes who think right wing ideology is your saviour but in reality you're just a bunch of sheep screaming and shouting at the wind, you are not "returning the world back to normal" you are holding onto the last sliver of your miserable bitterness whilst the rest of the world moves on and laughs at you.

 

Like I said, if you don't like any of this just fuck off. 

Ben_Hagen [2966467]

Baiting and trying to grab some virtue karma by an OP who is hateful and dismissive at any other occasion he gets.

Very annoying, but a bunch of blind sheep fall for it every time.

 

Also, staff is totally supportive of this type of baiting, as there is no other explanation why a topic without discussion in the OP, and repeating old news from the beginning of June (Wargasm) and even more than a year ago (Monarch reference) should stay in GD.

 

Herodotus [1670169]

It's getting very difficult to discern between people that are talented trolls, and actual knuckel-draggers. 

 

Both tend to have all the value of a wet fart in a hot tub, so I suppose it hardly matters in the end.

Piccolo [2693254] Reporter

The craziest thing about this thread is how much Sweeney Todd loves monarch to bring up individuals from years ago, with different opinions. If you want to join, I’m sure we can find a shell for you.  

 

Klashnekoff [498900]

Sweeney Todd probably one of the most unlikeable Mongrels on the game. 

Spent the best part of 20 years being a fucking asshole to people and now wants to act like a pariah, what a grade A muppet. 

Monarch can kick these detritus that occasionally comes our way, but Sweeney Todd will never stop being a boring hateful piece of shit. 

Mr-Chuckles [2868555]

What about if you dont care and you dont moan about Pride Month (or whatev) and you dont wear emojis and flags and tell everyone your beliefs? What if you just cruise through and just dont bother either way? Is that ok?

 

I feel like sometimes people get agitated because they feel if they aren't declaring an affiliation (for or against) they are being boxed as a "ist" by default.

 

I sit firmly in the camp of "I dont care" and just want people to crack on and live their lives. I think I care most about classism and the continued degradation of workers rights.. but I also dont make it my identity or throw eggs at corporate twats.

 

Be more like me if you dont actually hate anyone for being whatever they are and save the aggro.

Odin-All-Father [2010524]

That wasn’t what the ban was for, and I never called anyone a paedo, I said they defended one, but I can get told I support one. Because, y’know, staff are retarded.

 

my ban, was literally for an assumption* of what staff thought* I was talking about, I didn’t get banned for anything I said, it’s what they thought it’s what they thought it implied. Because, y’know, staff are retarded.

 

 

 

Avery [2765920]

This would be considered fine in the eyes of like 99% of people, yes. The post is aimed at the kind of person that will show up and complain about pride, do the "well what about straight pride" thing, start a debate where there really doesn't need to be one, or something similar. 

 

Genuine lack of caring and completely ignoring it? Sure, knock yourself out.

Mr-Chuckles [2868555]

I will point out I have noticed a negative trend of people trying to be anything other than straight. Pulling out things like sapiosexual or rather than heterosexual as though its now a tainted sexuality.

 

I know the example given doesnt replace hetrosexuality, but it is disheartening to see the reverse bigotry (I.E the jokes aimed at white, male, heterosexual, etc) that has a part to play in radicalising the subjects of this post, and the cringe attempts by people who fit into that arcing demographic (it includes women too) to be anything else, or layering themselves in accolades and allyships so as to not be seen as the enemy.

 

Its sad also because part of why I fall into the "I dont care" camp is the toxicity that all that stuff breeds. I dont want to be misunderstood as dismissing the gains in human rights and representation, but I also dont care for the performative and self-hating culture that is feeding the trolls and burning good will amongst the moderate majority.

 

I felt like my "I dont care" position was promoting proud ignorance which is not the case.

neth [3564828] Reporter

Is this "back in the day" you're referring to 3 weeks ago? Because that was when this dude who has been a known bigot for my entire time on Torn was still in a Monarch faction. Someone even said he used to have a profile image of himself that clearly displayed SS tattoos (I am unable to validate those claims). No way his bigotry went unnoticed yet every time I'd check his profile for new shit to report he'd still be in monarch

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Thorenryke [3967766]

Oh please, cut the shit. Things were already going to shit at that point. It was bigger than BLM, it was bigger than COVID, and it was bigger than red v blue. Idk where you’re from, but here in the US there is violent rhetoric consistently being pushed from the current republican administration. It is not safe for LGBTQ folk, particularly trans folk.


I’m going to go out on a limb to take a guess and suggest that you have never been the target of an administration’s policies.