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LEVERAGED TRADES! Up to 50X??

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Iceman_ [4116352]

⚡ TORN LEVERAGED CAPITAL ⚡

Want to make a bigger stock-market trade without having all the money yourself?

I’m offering leveraged capital to TORN players.

💰 HOW DOES IT WORK?

It’s simple:

1. You put in your own money
Minimum investment: 1M

2. You choose the stock
Tell me which stock you want to buy.

3. You choose your leverage
Choose how much additional capital you want, up to 50× leverage.

4. I provide the extra money
Your money + borrowed capital = your total stock position.

5. You make the trade
You choose when to sell and close the position.

 

⚡ WHAT IS LEVERAGE?

Leverage lets you control a much larger investment using less of your own money.

Example:

You put in 5M of your own money.

With 10× leverage, I provide 50M.

You can therefore make a 55M stock position using only 5M of your own capital.

The tradeoff is that gains and losses on your own capital become much larger.

📈 Example

With 10× leverage:

A +1% move in the stock ≈ +10% on your own capital.

A -1% move in the stock ≈ -10% on your own capital.

The higher the leverage, the less room you have for the stock to move against you.

 

🚨 LIQUIDATION

Your liquidation level depends on the amount of leverage you use.

The percentage below refers to the maximum percentage of YOUR ORIGINAL CAPITAL that can be lost before the position is automatically liquidated.

Leverage

Liquidation (loss on YOUR investment not with leverage)

2×

98%

5×

97%

10×

96%

20×

94%

30×

93%

40×

92%

50×

90%


🔥 50× EXAMPLE 

You invest 5M of your own money.

At 50× leverage, I provide 250M.

Your total position is 255M.

Your maximum permitted loss is 90% of your original 5M.

That means your position will be liquidated once your remaining equity reaches approximately 500K.

You do NOT lose more than the liquidation limit of your own capital.

⚠️ The higher the leverage, the smaller the stock-price movement required to reach the liquidation level.

 

💵 LOW FEES

0.05% per day on the borrowed capital.

That’s approximately 0.35% per week.

You only pay interest on the money you borrow, not on your own capital.

Example:

250M borrowed

250M × 0.05% = 125K/day

Held for 7 days:

≈ 875K total interest

The accumulated interest is deducted when the position is sold and closed.

There is no upfront interest payment.

 

📜 TERMS

• Minimum own investment: 10M
• Maximum leverage: 50×
• Maximum borrowed capital: 200M total
• Interest: 0.05% per day
• Approximately 0.35% per week
• Interest is calculated only on borrowed capital
• Interest is paid when the position is closed
• No upfront interest payment
• You choose the stock
• You choose your leverage
• You control when to sell
• Liquidation limits depend on your leverage
• Positions reaching their liquidation threshold are automatically closed
• Any applicable stock-market transaction fees are separate

 

💬 WANT TO TRADE?

DM me with:

💰 Your investment:
📈 Stock:
⚡ Leverage wanted:

 

any questions, terms to negotiate or concerns please DM

Maharball [2314085]

I find this a very creative idea! There are many red flags, like you only having 400M, the fucking high fee. 2% per week...that's like massive. Most players would be happy to make 2% on the stock market in a month. With these rates there is no incentive loaning from you, since 98% of the players will make a loss from the fee's you ask.

I think it would be good for you to do a bit more research on how the stock market performs. There are some stock which go up like 1% in a week or so. Personally I wouldn't make use of your service, but since I like this very creative idea, maybe a monthly fee of 0.5% would be good. So 0.125% per week.

However, make your own calculations if that's worth the risk with somebody only asking for 2x leverage. That's like meeting the investors own investment. If they put forward 100M, you put in 100M and you only sell at 90%...then...yeah..also your own money you have is just 10M + the 500K you received as fee haha.

Curious if this gets traction in the Torn community haha!

karlossanta [4112332]

It's interesting. Like real broker's leverage.

 

What you're saying in yyour last paragraph is not correct. If he gets a position with 100M and 2x leverage (other 100M), it will liquidate at 110M. He does not lose any from that but only the investor. In the same line, if the position goes to 220M, he sends 120 to the investor minus 100Mx0.286%/day plus Torn fees.

 

Please Iceman, correct me if i'm wrong.

 

Also I'm looking to start investing in stocks, but I don't know how this works here and how profit can daily trades be.

Triclo [4398977]

Yeah, you're right. He won't gain/lose any money from the investment. Only the fee is his commission. 2%/week is genuinely very high for stocks. Most mutual funds in torn makes about 2-3%/month.

 

Also fill your bank first before stocks.

Triclo [4398977]

He stated, "You can lose up to 90% of your own investment before the position is liquidated."

 

I'm putting 100m at 2x leverage so the the total amount invested by both of us is 200m. If the stock price falls hard, The stock will be liquidated at 110m. He will keep his original 100m and the 0.286%/day fee will get cut from my 10m. After the fee the rest will be returned.

 

So regardless of me making a profit/loss, he will earn a stable 0.286%/day fee with 0 risk. Since his money is completely intact. If the price drops only I take the hit.

Maharball [2314085]

So, let's work it out a bit more.

He invests 100M, you invest 100M. That's 200M in total in the stock market.
If your share falls by 90%, also his shares has fallen 90%, since you are equally invested.

So if your money goes to 10M (90% loss), his money in the same stock will also have gone to 10 (90% loss). It's not that his stock money is not affected by the price loss of the stock market....

karlossanta [4112332]

It does not work like that.

The same case, 100M + 100M

It has to fall until 110M, it is you lose 90%. In real percentage it is a 45%. This is what leverage is about, you multiply profits, but also loses. If you make a x10, your profits would multiply x10 but also loses, a 9% fall (90/1000M) wil make you lose your 90% and it closes your position.

Maharball [2314085]

Ah, I see now. I interpreted his exit rules differently. Especially the "You can lose up to 90% of your own investment before the position is liquidated." I read that as my 5M can go down 90%, seperatly from the part he put in. That would mean that if my 5M goes to 0.5M he input would also go down by 90%, leaving him with 10M left.

But your explanation makes more sense. 

 

 

SanchoProdding [1044045]

Wow! i love to see new scam ideas in Torn. It's been a long time since someone tried a Ponzi. I would love to read your news article! Have fun, stay safe.

Iceman_ [4116352]

Thanks for your input 😃 you can ask the multiple people I’ve had invest in previous indeavours. I could’ve taken very much money but didn’t. Just looking to make a fair extra bit of money.

Iceman_ [4116352]

Hey thanks for your input! After some more thinking I too agree that the previously stated rates are a bit high. But as for the 2% a week stuff that is not exactly the point. My idea behind this was to target people hoping to make short term trades as all stocks move a fair amount throughout the day 0.2% - 0.8% on a regular basis. 

I will reconsider my rates and maybe try again. But thank you for pointing out possible flaws 

Iceman_ [4116352]

I would honestly disagree. Most stocks fluctuate 0-1% a day. This idea is more inclined towards people who would wanna give day trading a chance. Although 1-2% change a week is totally feasible. And my weekly rate is only 0.35% still leaving plenty room for profits

Maharball [2314085]

Ha! In hindsight it's very easy to predict which stocks would have performed 1% per day indeed. Realistically if I give you the chart of the stock market, if you can tell me which stock gonna go sky high today, hit me up. Will pay you for it Iceman_