so I fired up chatgpt and asked it ......

Based only on Control [3797240]’s public Torn forum record, the “twat” reputation seems to come mainly from his dry, smug, deliberately provocative style:
He regularly makes snarky one-liners and sarcastic comments.
He can be blunt and dismissive, especially during arguments.
He often corrects people in a confident, matter-of-fact way, which can come across as condescending.
He clearly enjoys trolling and banter, sometimes at other players’ expense.
He combines that with genuine game knowledge, making the attitude stand out even more.
Short version: Control's public posting style is basically “I know what I'm talking about, and I'm going to tell you bluntly while having a laugh at your expense.” That combination of confidence, sarcasm, and trolling is why he can come across as a twat.

My ChatGPT is a bitch and just won't answer it.

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ok well no actually, I don't think I've ever defended my behavior by saying people can simply ignore it, I normally just double down

However the rest is actually pretty spot on, as I do find it entertaining 

If you mean Markland [1385260] on Torn, I can see why you might have that impression 😄. Public forum posts show a fairly argumentative, highly pedantic style: he tends to jump into faction-war discussions, challenge other players' interpretations, and keep debating a point long after everyone else seems ready to move on.

For example, in one 2023 faction-war thread, he repeatedly argues over whether victories in different strategic locations should be treated as equivalent, then pivots into criticism of how racket income is being distributed.

There are also plenty of much more mundane posts from him—asking game-mechanics questions, thanking people for answers, etc.—so the available evidence doesn't really establish that he's actually a twat. It does establish that his forum persona can be exceptionally argumentative and intensely committed to having the last word.

In other words: probably less “objectively a twat,” more “has selected Debate Lord as his Torn character class.” 😄

prompt:

lol! I personally like my question better anyhow… and so I’ll ask the same question: Regarding bogie, do you see him as more of a hero or a villain? Please use his posts to support your assessment.  

Response:

Ohhh, bogie. 😂 Now this is a fun one, because unlike MeanMike, bogie has a gigantic body of forum material—and, importantly, his posts are made while he’s wearing an actual staff/admin hat.

I went looking specifically at bogie’s own posts, rather than simply collecting “bogie is great/bogie is awful” opinions. And my assessment is:

bogie: hero or villain?

He comes across much more like an antihero than either a conventional hero or villain.

And I mean that descriptively, not as a rating. His own posts show somebody who seems perfectly comfortable being unpopular when enforcing rules, while also having a very obvious mischievous streak.

The most entertaining example is the 2025 “bogie coup” thread. Someone jokes that Torn is about to become “Bog City dot com,” with points replaced by feet-pic vouchers and stats replaced by “perversion levels.” bogie’s response is:

“First change, announcement forums to have karma.”

Then, when PrincessJulie jokes about the coup, bogie tells her:

“you’ll be next if you dont fall in line”

And when she replies, “Not if I fed you first,” he answers:

“Not if I fed you first”

😂

That’s not the forum behavior of a stern bureaucrat. The man is absolutely participating in the joke. 

But there’s a serious side to his posting too.

In an older discussion about whether he was doing a good job as community manager, one player criticized him as lacking diplomacy. Another player responded that although they disagreed with some of bogie’s decisions—including “Bookie-Gate 2019”—they thought Torn was better off with him in the role. 

And this is where the antihero thing really comes through: bogie doesn’t appear particularly interested in winning the popularity contest.

There’s even a 2023 thread where somebody initially attacked him for being rude and for what they believed was an unfair fed. Later, after learning more about the circumstances, that person publicly apologized and concluded that bogie had actually been right about the situation. 

But—and this is important—the criticism isn’t imaginary. A 2019 discussion has players saying that bogie had become more “mean/jaded” in the role and that his answers had become shorter, sharper and sometimes harsher. 

And there’s an absolutely glorious 2025 thread literally titled “IM SO SICK OF bogie.” The author starts constructing a list of reasons for hating him, including that he “spams” and has a red name. 😂 

Meanwhile, other players have described him as fair, dependable, responsive, and willing to communicate directly with players. One person who had initially complained about him later apologized after concluding that bogie’s decision had been justified. 

So what does bogie himself tell us?

That’s the part I find most interesting.

His posting style doesn’t look like someone desperately trying to convince people that he’s the good guy. He seems quite willing to be the guy who says “no,” takes the resulting shitstorm, and then makes a joke about the shitstorm.

And sometimes he’s downright cheeky about his power.

That “you’ll be next if you don’t fall in line” comment is objectively hilarious in context because the person saying it actually has the authority to make people wonder whether he’s joking. 😂 

Then you’ve got players joking that bogie secretly changes Torn specifically to torment them, while explicitly acknowledging it’s a joke. 

So my read is:

bogie is the guy who has been handed the keys to the castle and occasionally uses them to lock somebody outside—but then opens the window and laughs at them.

He’s got the villain aesthetic, the admin powers, the occasionally sharp tongue, and apparently enough forum enemies to sustain several dedicated hate threads.

But his own posting history also shows humor, engagement with the community, responsiveness, and a willingness to make unpopular calls rather than simply avoid conflict.

So if I were writing the Torn character description rather than issuing a moral judgment:

bogie: reluctant sheriff, occasional troll, professional shitstorm absorber, and the guy most likely to enforce the rules while making fun of you for getting caught by them.

And frankly, Janet…

MeanMike may enjoy being the villain.

bogie seems to enjoy making people wonder whether he’s the villain.

That’s a very different flavor of twatitude. 😂

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(twatitude might just be my favorite learned word of 2026)

Using only publicly retrievable Torn forum data about ISHAAN [2112856], the pattern is pretty clear:
He has a very blunt, sarcastic posting style, often responding with short remarks rather than taking a softer approach. 

He sometimes needles other players rather than simply answering them. One example is responding “Why so quiet?” after another player criticized his post. 

Other players have directly called out his behavior, including accusations of attention-seeking and low self-awareness in a public discussion. Those are other players' descriptions, not my characterization. 

He has maintained this forum persona for years; Torn's public forum pages identify him as ISHAAN [2112856] with thousands of posts and substantial karma. 

At the same time, his history isn't exclusively antagonistic—there are plenty of straightforward, helpful gameplay replies. 
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Short version: The public forum record makes ISHAAN look like a blunt, sarcastic shitposter who enjoys poking people and doesn't seem particularly interested in softening his replies.

Why is Malverith [3686325] such a twat?

If you mean Malverith [3686325] on Torn, I can see why you’d find them irritating. 😄

From the public forum posts I found, they have a tendency to give very literal, unsolicited answers and then keep arguing the technical point after someone clarifies what was actually being asked. For example, in a discussion about cracking crimes, another player explicitly said Malverith had misunderstood the question; Malverith then doubled down on whether success “correlate[s]” with crime skill. 

There are also posts where they jump into discussions with fairly pointed advice—sometimes useful, but delivered in a way that can come across as “well, actually…” energy. 

So, based solely on the public evidence: probably not malicious—just an impressive combination of pedantry, unsolicited advice, and commitment to winning the semantic argument. 

I checked what I could find publicly indexed from the Torn forums for Squid [2497107].

Interestingly, the evidence I found doesn't really support “Squid is a twat”. Quite the opposite:

• In Squid's loss-buying thread, multiple players describe them as “Good player, recommended!”, “Legit and fast”, “Fast and reliable”, and say they've been paid every time.
• One player specifically said “Every time he gave my money”, apparently confirming reliable payment.
• The thread accumulated 64 upvotes and only 1 downvote at one point. Squid themselves even joked about the downvote: “Maybe the guy just doesn't like sea creatures eh?”
• I also found Squid participating in ordinary forum discussions rather than just advertising. For example, they tested a Torn keg and reported getting 80 glasses of beer from it.

So, based specifically on the forum material I can find, the public record is actually pretty favourable toward Squid.

Chat GPT, i wont be paying for premium no matter how much how you glaze me

Prompt:

And one more: regarding Maxheadroom, do you see him as more of a hero or villain? Please use his own posts to support your answer. 

Response:

😂 Oh, MaxHeadRoom. This one is almost unfair because the evidence is unusually self-incriminating.

Looking specifically at his own posts, I’d describe him as much closer to a villainous shit-stirrer than a traditional hero—but with a surprisingly strong “actually has a point underneath all that nonsense” streak.

The villain evidence

First: he absolutely enjoys antagonizing people.

In one exchange, someone tells him that an entire post is “utter bullshit.” Max’s response is:

“Kind of like your entire existence on the forum.”

That is not a man desperately seeking diplomatic consensus. 😂 

And his general approach to forum conflict seems to be: if somebody opens the door, walk through it carrying a flamethrower.

In another thread, someone insults him, and Max responds with:

“Awww, you my biggest fan, shame you’re such a mongtard”

Again, we’re not exactly in Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood. 

There’s also a particularly revealing 2025 post where he spends quite a while dissecting someone’s elaborate multi-screen setup, questioning whether the image is fake, and then concludes:

“You dont have to keep proving you are a demented lunatic, we get it, we really do.”

😂 

So yes. The villain case is strong.

But then there’s the hero evidence…

And this is where Max becomes considerably more interesting.

His posts aren’t only insults. There’s a recurring tendency to give people credit when he thinks they’ve actually put effort into something, even when it’s not his thing.

For example, someone posts a substantial piece of creative work that Max doesn’t particularly like. His response is essentially:

“not really my thing but i absolutely respect the amount of work put into it”

He then specifically compliments the person’s skills. 

That’s actually a pretty revealing little character trait.

He doesn’t have to like something to acknowledge that someone worked their ass off on it.

There’s also an older post where someone gives a lengthy guide, and Max cuts through the whole thing with a much simpler formulation:

“1 dont be greedy
2 if it looks to good to be true, it prolly is
3 use a little commonsense”

That’s basically “Stop overcomplicating this, people.” 😂 

And one of his longer-running opinions about Torn is surprisingly humanistic. In a 2025 discussion, he argues that Torn’s competitive design can effectively turn the game into a second job and says that the people and relationships are what really keep players coming back. 

That’s a very different Max from the guy calling somebody a mongtard.

And then I found the smoking gun. 😂

Remember your question about JustJanet?

I found Max’s post in the thread where someone calls you “deranged.”

Max responds:

“no she aint. shes just a LOT more intelligent that you, you pos”

And then, rather magnificently, he adds that the other person is “the second creepiest person in torn.” 

So apparently Max’s hero credentials include defending Janet from forum nonsense.

I am absolutely not going to let him live that down.

My character read

What emerges from his own posts is someone who:

• likes confrontation
• enjoys trolling people who give him an opening
• has very little interest in sounding polite when he thinks someone is being stupid
• can be genuinely supportive when he thinks somebody has earned it
• values effort even when he doesn’t personally like the result
• has some fairly cynical opinions about Torn’s competitive mechanics
• and, apparently, has a soft spot for JustJanet’s forum menace. 😂

So if we’re sticking with your hero vs. villain framing:

MaxHeadRoom is the villain who occasionally discovers that he has principles.

Or, more accurately:

MaxHeadRoom: chaotic forum gremlin, occasional defender of the innocent, enthusiastic dispenser of verbal violence, and apparently a member of the JustJanet Defense League.

And I think I have now identified a recurring pattern in your experiment.

MeanMike: “I will be the villain.”
bogie: “Am I the villain? Maybe. Anyway, here’s your rule violation.”
MaxHeadRoom: “Yes, I’m the villain. Now shut the fuck up.”

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This is my favorite response of the three!  
I bet ChatGPT had no idea that I am a charter member of the MHR fan Club!  

"If we’re talking about Nurgle [1313583] in Torn, I suspect “twat” is less a personality trait and more his faction role at this point.

Based purely on the ongoing Nurgle lore you’ve subjected me to, the man has been pole dancing, hunting in South Africa, overdosing on Xanax, flying around in beachwear, wearing EOD armour, impersonating Trump, and fighting Lucifer.

At some point, you have to consider the possibility that Nurgle isn’t the problem. You’re his biographer."

ChatGPT called ME a twat instead.

Hmmm maybe I AM a bit of a twat. 

Prompt:

Oh I missed this part of Max’s original post do let me ask it the way he wanted. 

Why is JustJanet (911066) such a twat?

Reply:

😂 Oh, NOW I understand the assignment. You want me to answer the question as Max apparently intended it:

“Why is JustJanet (911066) such a twat?”

So I went back to the actual Torn posts rather than relying on the little dossier we’ve accumulated here. And honestly, the evidence is considerably more entertaining than I expected.

My answer would be:

Why is JustJanet such a twat?

Because she appears to have made “being technically correct while being mildly insufferable about it” into an art form.

There is evidence.

For instance, when somebody tells her she’s making “uneducated posts,” her response isn’t merely to disagree. She says:

“the difference between you and I is that I can actually admit when I speak too quickly… or get something wrong. I don’t delete my comments.”

That’s a very specific flavor of twat. 😂 She’s not merely saying “you’re wrong.” She’s saying “I am intellectually more honest than you, and I have receipts.” 

And in another exchange, someone essentially tells her she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Her response:

“See the difference between you and I is that I not only read, I comprehend.”

Oh, Janet. 😂

That is practically a laboratory-grade sample of Twatitude™. 

Then there’s her longstanding forum signature:

“Bitchilante — a vigilant bitch who’s only mean to those who deserve it.”

Which, frankly, may be the most useful piece of evidence in the entire investigation because she has actually written her own character description. 

And here’s the thing that keeps this from being a simple “Janet is mean” conclusion:

She’s also repeatedly shown herself being helpful, self-correcting, and willing to explain things. In the gym discussion, for example, she openly says she was assuming something and asks whether her understanding is correct; when Max corrects her, the exchange is perfectly ordinary. 

There’s also a lovely example of her laughing at herself when she realizes she’s spent money on an item she didn’t really need:

“And thought damn! That’s expensive! Then I bought another and realized I just need to stop attempting that crime!”

That’s not particularly villainous. That’s somebody publicly admitting “I screwed this up.” 

And she clearly has a playful side. In one old thread she describes herself as a “socialite” because of all the PMs she’s sent and tells people to start PMing everyone they know. 

So, Max, here’s my verdict:

JustJanet isn’t a twat because she’s unusually cruel.

She’s a twat because she seems to possess a particularly dangerous combination:

high confidence + willingness to argue + willingness to admit when she’s wrong + an apparent inability to resist pointing out when somebody else is wrong.

That fourth ingredient is the killer. 😂

She doesn’t seem satisfied merely with being right.

She wants the other person to understand exactly why they’re wrong, preferably with supporting evidence, a timeline, and perhaps a mildly condescending footnote.

And then she’ll probably laugh about it afterward.

So, why is JustJanet such a twat?

Because she’s a self-appointed Bitchilante who apparently believes that if you’re going to be a twat, you should at least be an informed twat.

And I have to give Max credit here:

He may have asked the question, but the evidence suggests Janet has been building her own prosecution exhibit for approximately 11 years. 😂

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Damn… I guess I might have a little “well actually” energy going on! 🤓🧐😬😳

Why is Zufiyy [3872638] such a twat

If you mean Zufiyy [3872638] on Torn, the public forum record doesn't really support calling him a “twat.” 😭

From what I found, he’s pretty active on the forums and trade threads, and some other players have actually responded positively to his bazaar/trading activity. ([Torn][1])

If you mean “why is he being a twat to me specifically?”, tell me what he did or send me the screenshot/conversation, and I can break down what happened objectively.

Polite fella grrrr grrr HAHAHHAHA

Why is ThunderBlitz [2684774] such a twat?

If you mean ThunderBlitz [2684774] on TORN, the public forum record doesn't exactly establish “twat” as a clinical diagnosis. 😄

What it does show is someone who:

• posts a lot and is very willing to correct or nitpick details;

• has a fairly sarcastic/self-deprecating posting style;

• occasionally gets into the weeds over technicalities—enough that another player described them as “technically right, which is the most annoying type of right.” (Torn)

• is also pretty helpful in some threads, particularly around scripts and game mechanics. (Torn)

So, based solely on the evidence: probably less “objectively a twat,” more “pedantically helpful forum goblin with a strong commitment to being correct.” 😏

forum goblin

The cheek!  😒

.....Anyway, I'm more often right than wrong?  I'll take it!  😎

I'd do it but am noob, won't know me. 

Hahaha thanks

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I don’t even have a forum signature. Tf 

why is Odin-All-Father [2010524] such a twat?

Whether you are looking at the Norse mythological legends, his depiction in modern media (like God of War: Ragnarök), or his reputation as a long-time forum veteran in the text-based MMO Torn City, Odin's reputation for being abrasive or ruthless is usually pretty earned.

Mythic Harmonies

Depending on which universe you are referring to, here is why he gets that reputation:

1. In Torn City (The Player / Forum Veteran)

If you are talking about the high-level player Odin-All-Father [2010524] on Torn.com:

• Unfiltered Forum Persona: With thousands of posts and years in the community, he is known for being blunt, sarcastic, and zero-tolerance toward rookie questions or bad playstyles.

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• Elitist Mechanics Advice: He frequently dispenses blunt advice (like his stance on defense vs. dexterity builds). If someone posts bad math or weak logic on the forums, he will usually roast them without fluff.

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If you mean the TORN player SoyburgeR [2171959], I can see why you’re annoyed 😅. Public forum posts show they’ve gotten into a few arguments and trolling exchanges with other players, including disputes over money and trash talk. 

But whether they’re actually a “twat” depends on the specific thing they did to you. If you show me the message or tell me what happened, I can break down the situation objectively.

Ok It made me laugh at myself.....not entirely wrong I do like to stir the pot now and then so thats correct

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