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Nightmareqr4 [3961870]

Hey now it's very boring and obvious 

The dams on the nile that started to be a thing in the last decade is being used as a wepon to control Egypt we were not able to persuade or get deal on the Ethiopia and we suffered losses now someone is pushing Sudan to make its own dam that unarguably gonna be weponized against us if it wasn't originally made for that 

Egypt is now wither yo like it or not the last real free country in the middle east 

That will be the last nail in the Arab coffin 

If we are dead Arabs will be no more and you know who will take over and I think you don't want 

Any opinions 

Collete [1389080]

whats this to do with Israel ?

 

Who is funding the Ethiopian dams

The funding for the Ethiopian dams, specifically the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD), is primarily domestic, with significant contributions from government bonds, private donations, and investments from Ethiopian citizens and businesses. The GERD is a gravity dam on the Blue Nile River in Ethiopia, and its construction aims to address the country's growing energy needs and foster economic development. The dam's funding mechanism emphasizes Ethiopian ownership and self-reliance, with key elements including government bonds, private donations, and diaspora investments. While the GERD itself is funded domestically, related infrastructure may receive funding from international sources, including loans from China and other development partners.

Palestine [2578434]

Well, Ethiopia and Israel are partners, and friends, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about the end of what he said, "and you know who will take over". 

Palestine [2578434]

I don't think they would have been able to defend and maintain the Sinai anyway. They surely just bought time, to build up, and feel  strong enough to do what they are doing now, and more. Sinai is just a buffer zone. 

Collete [1389080]

Then why does Egypt blockade Gaza then ?

 

Palestine you mean Hamas

 

Lebanon you  mean Hezballah

 

Iran that funds both

 

Bhappychap [2270497]

You can ignore them. They insert themselves into other country debates because their bubble is filled with sand and sadness. 

 

My only gripe is you said egypt is the last free country over there. 

 

It hasnt been free in a decade. and even then, for a blip. 

 

There has been attempts, '11 almost had it.  But for example, the last 'election' had 44% turnout... el-Sisi's plan from the get go. And he really only had to change 2 basic laws, both from 2012.

 

It will be impossible for your 3 regions to come to terms with GERD together, with el-Sisi in power there (authoritarian), Ehtipoa's (authoritarian regime), and sudan (dictatorship, in war with itself right now). And an authoritarian's first sacrifice, is it's citizens.   

 

 

Other countries, outside of russia and china wont get involved until trade is affected. 

 

If you guys could fix some of the laws el-Sisi put in place, and remove him in the next few years, then your country could gain the natural 'adults are speaking' and take charge of the deals. until then, everyone will be selfish, no one will look out for it's' citizens truly. 

 

 

Its a little old school, but it works. 

I'd write letters to other countries and the UN. If people are squawking about it in multiple places, more action is tenable.  

Nightmareqr4 [3961870]

That's a different point 

Elsisi is leaving in 4 years anyway 

Regardless of the honesty of the elections that brought him

He is still an Egyptian and wither you like it or not

He has made quit few good things

Egypt became inherently week and poor since the age

Of abdulnasser 

And become too much dependent on USA in mubarak's age 

That now have changed rlsisi was the only one capable of saying not to USA and Israel without facing any direct consequences 

He refused to get the Palestinians in refused to normalise and even refused a direct invite from trump 

To talk

And USA wasn't able to da anything about that

That it even gave us new weapons and trump some how likes elsisi (maybe because they are both actually dictators) 

Look at other countries they are broken and under constant attack inside and outside 

Even Saudi git struk they even attacked Riyadh and even mecca and the only thing Saudi was planning

Is that USA will help them but see what happened

Try to do that with Egypt and it will be the end of your country militia group or whatever

 

 

Bhappychap [2270497]

Elsisi is leaving in 4 years anyway 

 

Lol, ok. 

 

He is still an Egyptian and wither you like it or not

He has made quit few good things

 

He's an authoritarian. They usually have to do good things to buy will. 

 

Egypt became inherently week and poor since the age

Of abdulnasser 

Yes, 50 years of dictatorship, 10 years of attempting freedom, and then losing it, can do that. 

 

 

And become too much dependent on USA in mubarak's age

 

Well, your choices are local dictators, china, russia, or USA. Those are the attendees of the proxy wrs that has shaped your society for the past 70 years. 

 

 

That now have changed rlsisi was the only one capable of saying not to USA and Israel without facing any direct consequences 

He refused to get the Palestinians in refused to normalise and even refused a direct invite from trump 

To talk

 

Authoritarians are usually focused on things that get them more power in their own country, so this makes sense

 

 

And USA wasn't able to da anything about that

Our foreign policy and such teams are all but dismantled at this point.

 

That it even gave us new weapons and trump some how likes elsisi (maybe because they are both actually dictators) 

 

Yes, trump has to uphold the proxy war, even though they have no idea how. And yes, they are both wannabe dictators, they beget each other. 

 

Look at other countries they are broken and under constant attack inside and outside 

Yea, this is constant, and not new? Its how world politics works, and has worked sincethe new deal. 

 

 

Even Saudi git struk they even attacked Riyadh and even mecca and the only thing Saudi was planning

Yes? they control a lrge percentage of the worlds oil supply? obvious rabbit is obvious. 

 

 

Is that USA will help them but see what happened

Yes, our president, and his family have lots of dealings with SA. they are making billions off each others, and SA is buying power in the US. 

 

 

Try to do that with Egypt and it will be the end of your country militia group or whatever

 

I am not sure what youre implying here.