You clearly lack the ability for independent thought when it comes to right and wrong.
You are not helping the situation. Are you going to DB TNL or not?
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So what I've gathered here through all this word spaghetti is that TDT can get it at HW. Nice.
Calling Farcough a narcissist after you folks went on a generational PR campaign to tank your own factions optics is kinda rich
Always be Doubling Down works in the casino, not here.
TDT trying to justify bad behavior on other bad behavior
You were quick with that lol quite accurate for how this forum post ended up
You guys are quite honestly some of the dumbest leadership i have seen in a while.
They told Farcough they didnt care, not you.
"Out of hundreds of mugs I assume" you know you can check logs, right?
"I cant fix the problem if the one being attacked doesnt see it as a problem" yes you can, by taking action like a real lead and not some background character in your own faction, even this thread was created by a non-gold fist to speak for a lead.
All im seeing are excuses from leadership on why they are justified for letting nemesis do "whatever he wanted" and why leadership took 0 action or even actively supported Nemesis.
This boils down to the fact that leadership is sitting around refusing to do anything unless they get asked to nicely? Shifty leads and shitty environment.
my message to anyone decent in TDT : get out before your shifty excuse for leadership ruins you further, find a faction that won't mug their own members and blame it on "a guy doing whatever he wants".
Edit: meant to quote on the gold fist of TDT
You think this is TDT leadership channel atm?
Too much self reflection in that
Maybe it was what they were wearing
Maybe they didn't say no hard enough
Maybe, just maybe, don't allow leadership to mug faction members
Maybe, just maybe, don't allow members to mug faction members
Maybe, just maybe, a new recruit doesn't think they can say no to a senior member
Do I have to say anything?
Close this
I will reiterate that Farcough is welcome at Grims' Academy for the DB drop.
Who doesn't want a pink bunny in the DB logs? I'm never selling this faction due to how it came into my possession. The pink bunny stays.
You’re assuming they have self awareness
Nothing says spooky like turning Torn into Chernobyl during the most beloved event of the year; good luck with that tho
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Uh ok
that is just tragic.
Several replies have made a clear argument: mugging your own faction members is unacceptable. Then that standard needs to apply to FarCough too.
The attached log shows FarCough mugging Mazino while they were both in TDT. This is evidence for the point I raised earlier, not simply leadership calling him “annoying.”
If mugging a fellow member is grounds for condemnation when Nemesis does it, FarCough doing it deserves the same scrutiny. His disagreement with leadership doesn’t exempt him from the standard being used to judge us.
To be clear, this doesn’t make every decision by TDT right. But criticism of leadership doesn’t make the evidence against him disappear either. Both can be examined without excusing either.
The context I’ve added matters because parts of this discussion have reduced the conflict to someone objecting to mistreatment and leadership turning against him for speaking up. This log establishes that he also mugged a fellow member himself. Plus he has also been part of leadership for a long time himself. That materially complicates that account.
I’m not asking anyone to suddenly support TDT. I am asking a straightforward question: does the objection to mugging faction members apply consistently, including when the person responsible is someone you’ve been defending?
Why does it show me mugging at the same time in 2 colours?