Ranked War Matching and Ranks

Does having one member with significantly higher stats than the rest affect matchmaking under this new system?

Give it time. I think the system is still evaluating your faction as near plat 3 strength since they're matching you with plat 3 to diamond 0. Since ranks and ratings drop slowly now it'll take a long while to adjust.

Your faction only has a 2m median, so I think your actual strength should be much lower than that what the system believes you to be. 

OMFG  - Like really.  Devs in this game are the worst I've ever seen.  Yet another horrible matchup.  How many clear losses in a row do we need in order for a real fight to show up?

Breaking news, people dislike matching system yet continue to enlist for wars just for a reason to complain. 

more in next week when a dev fixes a spelling mistake on a page only to be heckled for why I took so long 

So you suggest not playing the game?  Easy from your position of easy win after easy win.  They messed with a system that made sense and sometimes had bad matchups to a system that has even more bad matchups before in an argument to make it better.  All they did was make it worse and it's the only playable part of the game.  (Minus 2 events Halloween and Elims)

Soon Ranked Wars will be just like territory wars where nobody does it at all because it got so broken

you think we want to win and win and win ? our last war was a roflstomp and im assuming this one might end up with us winning as well, theyre plat 0, we are gold 1, we are going to win this and remain gold 1, its annoying as hell.

I'm not sure who you were directing this to, and I say this with all due respect - but this is a red-hot scorching take from the leader of a Plat faction that is only ever matched against Gold 0/1 and Silver factions. 

I would love your honest opinion after being matched week after week against DIamond factions with 10x your respect.  

War is great for money & respect but damn we expect SOME kind of actual "Ranked War" progression for our efforts. Or at least be transparent about the general requirements for moving up a rank. Same with maintaining/losing a rank.

I mean, if you was to fall underneath this unseen " BS requirement", before winning your next war, would you still be moved down rank regardless of the win?

We know that respect doesn't factor into matchmaking. But higher respect means better and more perks, and more often than not better gear and free mercs from family or alliance factions, putting the lower respect faction at a disadvantage, possibly even a considerable disadvantage. 

Yeah it should definitely be taken I to account. Even from a pure stat calculation.

It does though, as part of that performance metric. Whether you are performing really well (or really badly) due to having more/less perks or better/worse armories, that adjusts the performance metric and changes the score being used to match?

Right? For example we only have Agression tree, while someone with 3x our respect might have Agression vs our raw defensive stats and Suppression to counter our Agression perks. 

How's this a clear loss?

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You have a median of 11 members on at a time vs their 7. That's 57% more activity.

Now if you take WHO is hitting in each fac I'll take your last war which I assume is real since you're complaining vs their last obvious real war.

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Your top stat members are mostly your top hitters. Their top stat members are leeching off their bottom.

I don't see how this is a clear loss. On paper if you take actual war participants (as opposed to leeches) you seem stronger. Many factions are too lenient to top stat members that barely play cause they're afraid of losing the stats.

This isn't a case of "oh those players weren't in the fac during that war" compared to top hitters, this is their top 10 players by stats. All in for a long time and only ONE shows up in their top hitters during war.

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If they win it's more likely that you guys didn't show up because you were scared of big stats, not cause they're better at warring. This is why people keep them around.

So when will a real fight show up? When you log in and beat the shit out of them. Though if your intent is to roll over, then until you stop rolling over.

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TL;DR

If factions continue to roll over for stats, they'll continue to think they're outmatched and factions with inactives will continue to have free cache piles while others "term a loss" with them like others suggested you do. Why the actual fuck would you term a loss with these clowns, and why would anyone suggest you do?

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We haven’t ranked up a single time since the new system and have only been matched with golds, leading to the obvious conclusion that the minute we lose a war we’re being punted down to low gold. 

Shockingly, means we’re gonna want to win to maintain the rank. 

Ignore the ranks of our opponents and look at the stats, only one that was slightly balanced was our match against Bloodline and that’s mainly due to the activity advantage, and even that was a termed war 🤣 

3/4 of your last wars were termed… losses. That was a choice… 

(Bar Chaos Cartel which was a 24 hour real war) 

Just as we chose to do termed wins. Now we’re going back to real wars, we’ll see if that impacts whether or not we’ll rankup. Current matchup is a 12 hour brawl then whoever’s in the lead takes the win. 

You know something is up when me and Beerstein agree. This is nowhere near a clear loss. 

Thank you reading my post and taking the time to reply. Respect sound absolutely be taken into account, as vicious grim said, this means massive advantages in perks. 

Yes we termed (both losses) because we were considerably outmatchedb in both instances. 

I'm not seeing anything get easier. 

From your own team's explanation, matches should only cross over (at most) two divisions, yet we are not seeing that. In the list I provided, two of the four factions were 3 divisions above us. 

It is if you consider the framing: Mana's top stat members are their top hitters (by a significant margin) which means limited E for shit respect hits, while the Undead Crows is a working team with the mid stats making an equal hit contribution to the top stats thereby making higher respect hits and providing a more formidable front to counter the less active mids on Mana's side. Neither side appears to be making significant use of their smalls, so don't have much to say about the competitiveness of either side's lower end.