Stats advice

does a balanced battle stat more better than whoring one stat? im kinda new and im contemplating what stat to whore but i asked around and they said its better to have balanced stats but its kinda slow and i keep getting punched around like a sandbag.

There's no definite right or wrong way to train, the important thing is to keep moving forward.

A common approach is to train in the gym that gives the best gains until you unlock special gyms, then choose a route that suits you. The second tier special gyms are definitely worth it, so at least some whoring is needed at that point.

As menationed above.

I would suggest you to train highest dot gym until you unlock special gyms. You can take a look at gyms here - Gyms
Also i will link you Hank's and Baldr's ratio so you can choose yourself which one you want to go next. Both are good , just choose your way. Hank's and Baldr's Ratios

Good luck, hope it helped. Feel free to message me if you need any further assistance.

Well mate tbh i prefer balanced

Its just because whoring kinda affects u in the long run

I don't know how it works out exactly and the numbers but eventually it's better imo to just have a balanced stat

With gyms i think u can see sometimes that some newer gyms sometimes gives worse gym gains so if u really want to whore. What u can try is always try and gym the one stat that the gym is giving u most gains for(I would guess this way u can gym a particular stat in one gym then maybe next gym u can gym something else entirely. Idk. XD never tried it myself.) I always try to gym the way it gives me most gains. Faction perks. Educational perks.



I won't lie I've been tempted to put em all in str to beat tanks but I've kept my cool and no. I won't.

Unless u have a specific reason to whore I'd say DON'T.
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While the others pretty much covered everything, you might wanna look at MightyGoober's thread as well: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=61&t=16142480&b=0&a=0

I'd wait until you're closer to a special gym to start a ratio. Those are unlocked in the heavyweight gyms at Cha Cha's and George's >> https://wiki.torn.com/wiki/Gym

With the same total stats and all things given equal, balanced beats unbalanced in combat. I'd say that staying balanced is more important early on for defeating Duke mission targets and chaining for maximum respect (3x fair fight).

Going unbalanced will also take you longer to reach the next rank trigger (mostly for the merit) >> https://wiki.torn.com/wiki/Ranks

It's a pick your poison kinda deal. If you have balanced stats you will more likely you will win against someone with the same total but is whoring a stat (ex you have 1m each stat vs someone with 4mil defense and nothing else). However, if you whore a stat you will get more gains compared to someone who is balanced in that stat. The way the gym training formula works, the more of a stat you have the better your gains will be. (ex you have 1m each stat and will gain 10k per 1 train at some gym vs someone with 4m in one stat and will gain 40k per 1 train at the same gym. ratios aren't exact of course but just a general idea).

Eventually you'll want to (or you might not, it's your decision) adopt a ratio for your stats so you can use one of the special gyms (or maybe two if you do it right but you'll have to completely ignore one of three stats) so you can stay semi-balanced and have better gym gains thanks to the high dots (training multipliers) in the special gyms.

TLDR balanced better for fighting, whoring better for getting more numbers.

From my understanding balanced stats will always beat out whored stats of the same total.

Do the hank stats. Will pump you faster
Why should you train 4 stats in crappy gym? Train 3 stats in special gyms n later the 4th in george. All other gyms but those are meh.

The point of whoring one or two stats is to get a bigger total using the same amount of energy, and in many cases hitting the so called SE range faster.

Right but the OP doesn't ask for that information. Your battle stats are more effective the more balanced they are. The OP's question seems to be about trying to not get bodied so much. You can Whore a stat all you want but someone else with significantly less can always take you out.

Big Total doesn't = Winning.

People who Whore Dex know this.

Yeah but i meant in the long run, you are definitely better off whoring. Getting back to OP's situation, he seems to be a newish player and all his stats are probably below 50m, and in that case whoring gives even faster results because the gains increase so much faster getting closer to 50m. You can compensate the stats left behind with temps.

Right but the OP question to me, sounds like he is asking how to best his stats to WIN a fight not to just have good numbers.

As we both have agreed, whoring a stat will give you a higher total faster but does not actually make you stronger.

Seeing as the stat gain increases will only be to your whored stat. What good does a pretty, high number do you if it is ineffective?

Again, whoring out one or two stats will always lose out to someone balanced with the game total. Yes it will take you longer to get balanced than to whore one stats but that one whored stat is only good or certain other people who have whored a different stat.

You still have to increase your non-whored stats eventually or you will still get bodied.

Rule of thumb is Balanced is always better. I've always been told to balance your stats until happy Jumps are ineffective. So that the advice I will give to this 'new player'.

I never agreed to the weird idea that a higher total doesn't make you stronger. I think whoring is better, long and short term for the reasons I have already explained. You can get decent results with both methods, but keeping your stats balanced all the time is playing it too safe for no good reason.

It's not a 'weird idea' it's how the game works and you literally agreed with my previous post stating this. If you have 1M in Dex only and someone with 250K in every stats will beat you, almost everytime. This applies in every situation. Yes getting your stats to be balanced takes more work, but it is not, as you are saying "playing it too safe for no good reason".

You keep your stats balanced until Happy Jumps are ineffective. Thats what I said both times and that's the advice I've been given and gave repeatedly. And I stick by it. I never said anything about keeping them balanced all the time.

"Yeah but i meant in the long run, you are definitely better off whoring. Getting back to OP's situation, he seems to be a newish player and all his stats are probably below 50m, and in that case whoring gives even faster results because the gains increase so much faster getting closer to 50m. You can compensate the stats left behind with temps."

50M in one whored stat is no good against someone with 50M balanced out. Shit even someone with less stat total but Balanced out could beat you. It doesn't take a whole lost of balanced stats to win vs a whored out person.

Idk what makes you think otherwise but you are wrong. It you are going for straight merit/gains, higher numbers then Whoring is the better route but it will not win you more fights.

Just balance your stats out first; THEN whore certain stats of your choice, not the other way around.

I never said that OP or anyone should train just one stat, as that would be idiotic.

But you are obviously missing the point, the difference in totals would be much much bigger by the time the stat whore hits 50m or 200m total, so that would be the short term strategy in combination with temps to compensate for weaknesses or increase an advantage. And they would be all set for a special gym strategy which would give them a considerable advantage over time.

Baldr's ratio (or Hank's ratio if you want to leave either dex or def behind until you have the Ignorance is Bliss book). Other than that, no real whoring until your stats are in SE range.

OP is going to get punched around like a sandbag until his stats are much higher regardless of ratios (though *somewhat* balanced would help with missions).

There is a good discussion above and wonderful ideas.

I hope you read the below thread also for further and ext nded discussion.

Whatever you choose I would say sticking to it for long term will get you nice reward. At least train three stats.

Link

Hope this helps. All the best.

At under 2k stats, the important thing is getting that E usage into the gym and pump the stats up. Nothing you do now can't be fixed later one, really focus on hitting the gym and making the most of the best gyms available to you in terms of gains.

Baldr and Hank's ration thread