This is more of and issue than a bug in relation to ranked wars and the payouts being given.
Today a ranked war between Natural Selection II and Carbon finished with a total score of 5 in Carbon's favour. Both factions received diamond tier rewards for doing absolutely nothing in the war which is absolutely bullshit and is an issue that should be addressed. I understand that cache farms are something intended and have no issues with them in the game besides on a personal level but when 2 factions go to war and do nothing against each other during the war they should receive 0 payout.
There should be some sort of participation limit for each ranked tier e.g. 10% at bronze, 20% at silver etc etc to ensure maximum payouts. The payout that both NS2 and Carbon received is absolutely bullshit and should never happen.
I understand that these 2 factions are in an alliance for the current island war which is why they didnt attack one another and that they are all queuing for ranked wars to try and "bypass" early discharge but if they are gonna get these massive payouts for doing absolutely nothing it will just make warring at diamond rank pointless and everyone will just agree to do nothing and let the lowest ranking faction win and share the caches.
We just had a war with NS2 where they completely dominated us as expected. That was fine and we were fine with taking the loss but we were then greeted with this additional message
JUX HQ has lost an additional division due to lack of participation
The issue i have with this is that our members did participate in this war. Our members were actively trying to get out of hospital, initiating attacks and trying to win. According to the war report we only had 16 people to achieved at least 1 war hit which is fine, NS had us pinned down from the get go so trying to make a hit was very difficult but my question is how is participation measured??
If successful war hits is the only measure for participation then this metric is flawed. My members were actively medding out of hosp, and initiating attacks but NS were so fast at knocking us back into the hospital that we would die before we could finish the fight. Do these failed/ defended attacks count or are they just voided cause we didnt get to hosp them?
What about the members who assisted in attacks, are they counted towards participation??
What about medding out but as soon as you get out you are hosped straight away unable to join/ initiate an attack? Does this activity count towards participation or not??
There is more to participating in a war than just getting the finishing hit and I would like some clarity as to how participation is measured as we feel like we participated in this war and feel that we have been punished for being put up against an much stronger and more active faction.
Honestly should be member restrictions for all ranks
Diamond 75+
Plat 50+
Gold 25+
Silver 10+
Higher your tier the bigger the war should be. Shouldn't be seeing wars where its someone with 60 members fighting someone with 25 just makes the system look like a joke
Credit to d3vl and others who have been able to abuse it in such a way for so long but if we're trying to make it so wars are competitive at all levels I think more caps are needed
With us ranking against diamond factions but not being able to get into diamond ourselves it makes the most sense for us to term a 50/50 split if theyre willing as it will maximise everything for both sides
If we could get into diamond then actually fighting would make a lot more sense
i dont mind this being the case but then why have the cap for going up to diamond anymore then if anyone can fight anyone regardless of division?
Like we are below the 75 mark as we are trying to do some restructuring and see who should still be with us before trying to recruit more. Yes we are still considered big due to our stats but we are far from being able to compete with most in diamond imo
Winning our war against The Nest provides no real benefit to us then if we will just get less rewards and wont even rank up against a Diamond 1 division faction when instead we could game the system more do a term with them and split the rewards 50/50.
You might have open it up to more rigging the rewards as you could then create a beast of a faction together (with like 10 members and the rest noobs which already exist) to stay below the 75 members limit and just rig all wars to probably maximize rewards even more now then has previously been done
Could we have matched with a diamond 3 division faction?
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