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$91,722,124,327 has been deducted from your account. You account has been identified as one of a few severely exploiting bookie mechanics. We have calculated this to be the amount due for removal from your account in order to reverse all profit gained.

I am here to tell the story of why the bookies is limited to max bets of 10m.

Using this system I made a profit of $92 BILLION from 153 winning bets.

Ched: If you are reading this you need to suspend betting on Horse Racing immediately.

Relentless if you are reading this, HMU.

As far as I am aware, this has been occurring for more than the past month, it is only now that the HOF seem to have figured out the system that the restriction has come into effect. In fact, I have been doing this since last year.

This is not variance betting but more arbitrage betting.

There are two fatal flaws in the Torn Bookies system

Flaw 1:

The bookies on Torn is run using the Betfair API. Weirdly I believe that Torn still pulls the game data (Name, Teams, Date etc) using the Betfair Exchange API, but then pulls the odds using the Sportsbook API. Anyway, I digress. The API pulls updates every 10 minutes on torn at The 10thminute, e.g at 11:30, 11:40 etc. This isn’t very useful for variance betting,but what it is useful for is betting on horse racing.
In horse racing when a horse is injured, or the trainer doesn’t want to run the horse because of track conditions they will pull them out of the race. When this happens bookmakers normally update the odds immediately or suspend betting while a new book is made. In torn this doesn’t update until the 10-minute mark. This gives you 10 minutes to take advantage of betting conditions that are GUARANTEED to make you money.

Flaw 2:

Horse Racing on torn does not have a rule 4. Rule 4 means that when horses pull out of races, there is a deduction in winnings on bets placed at the higher odds to account for a horse pulling out.

How does this make you money?

This can make you billions of dollars in a day, and this is how I did it.

First you monitor the racing news for the races on torn that day. Pretty much only Australian races work at this point. So I used Racingaustralia.horse to monitor for scratchings (horses that are pulling out of the races) using the distill Firefox plugin. I set it to check for changes every 30 seconds.

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You then check to see if horses in your race were scratched. You want the horse with the best odds of winning to be scratched.

Then you use your handy spreadsheet to calculate the bets. In this example the horse with the best odds of 1.62 was scratched. This means that you can bet on all the other horses while they still have high odds! The money is spread out using a calculation that means no matter which horse wins, you will always win money. In the below scenario, you are always going to have a return of $4b, from a total bet of $2.6b. giving you a $1.4b profit.


And that is pretty much it. You just have to sit at your computer for 2 hours between 8 and 10pm TCT waiting for racing news to come in.

There are a few more complexities than that which can help you predict races that are going to be profitable in the future if you want to actually gamble. But the crux of the system is that you can make guaranteed profit.

What made this system even better is that on Friday, the bookie API didn't update for HOURS. This meant that scratchings could accumulate and make you big money.

Don't believe me? Here is my proof that this has worked for over 9 months.
I quit when I saw the bookies win/loss ratio was coming close to 1.000. I knew it was over. I still made $92b.

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CBA to post them all but this is the last ones that I have saved from early Feb of this year.

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Thanks, lol.

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So for the last couple of weeks I've been selling myself for wall sitting, warring and general attacking purposes to make some money. (Shameless Plug)

In that time I've noticed that quite a few of my jobs have been for relatively small and unknown factions trying to defend their rackets against 'proxy' factions owned by some of the largest HOF factions in the game. These aren't your typical sub-faction situation but are factions that literally exist to take over rackets owned by weak factions and are then left empty, save a couple of players who funnel the profits back to the main faction.

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My question to GD is, do you think that these 'proxy' rackets are good for the whole racket system in general?

Honestly I think we will see these proxy factions quiet down a lot once rackets start to level up to 4 and 5, and the HOF begins some real wars over the best of them; but right now I know of a few leaders of small factions who feel disheartened that their old spots have been taken out by factions that now sit largely empty. There is no limit to how many of these 'proxies' one faction could own, so a single faction can hold down multiple territories all over the map to gain resources through the rackets system. Should this be allowed?

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grats

Took long enough

Should be bought back imo

Money: $-75,103,793,615

How can I get in on this? An extra 2B and I'd be back in business. Pm me.

Send me 75b so I can lay bets again and I will test it out... anyone know what provider they are using yet?

Also great to see Chedburn finally admit the true cause of the entire situation in the first place was the shit rules in place for racing.

Even horse racing will be possible at some point, however such events have their own rules so can take additional time to implement.

Only $50m in debt?

..amateur.

Looks like casual won.

You get punished for pushing the boundaries of this game to the limit.

We made this work in LS with 3 API keys and like 2 hours of setting up a basic web page. Ofc it takes a little bit of knowledge, if you're that salty then just f**king learn how to do it.

If you're trying to run a search against every player in Torn then you're probably doing it wrong.

Maybe chedburn will give everyone a level playing field in the future, free 3 Xanax a day, 4 FHCs and no rehab cost. Everyone starts at level 100 with 60nnb. Would you be happy then?

_SB_ mugged highmage85 for $378,080,525 (+1.92)

_SB_ mugged IqNone for $514,071,933 (+3.06)

Thanks for your stuff LOL

You can do this using the API quite easily. Everyone has access to it.

People always cry when someone else finds out how to play the game better than everyone else. Get over it, its f**king sad.

Yes, I should have invested before I took advantage of a poorly designed system to make a profit in this game.

I regret being the first person in the history of Torn to do this. Glad nobody has done this since. /s

"It'll also let negative networth players and drug-free players claw back some happiness without rehabbing."

Yeah except we can't buy it now as need cash to buy from the system.

The only way to catch up is to bend the rules, and even then you get bent over and f**ked. If I still had a sub I'd expect a little packet of KY jelly from chedburn and Co for this month

I'm f**ked and not in the way that normal people like to get f**ked

Let us trade stocks between players new system is $hite

https://www.torn.com/loader.php?sid=attackLog&ID=41e8edf63fc2ccca4b5e44fb78828db9

Attacked the fella, beat him and hit the mug button. Nothing happened, the game was just loading then it said attack failed.

I assume there will be some kind of recompense? The 'mugged' money, if any, must go somewhere.

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Sign me up.

I need 75b to get back to positive money before I can actually do shit though

You could wipe out 1/3 of my debt. Someone do it... pls...

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