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Oh, excuse me... How many Americans killed innocent people around the world? I mean... Since you mentioned who will get punished more hardly over killing 3 Americans. Israelis are killing Palestinians on a daily basis. I wouldn't invest any money neither in Saudi, or Israel. That'd be supporting killing innocent people.

Where I am from, they are. Because nobody here wants nor has such amount of money for all that things.

Hold on a second! Just because it works that way in the US, doesn't mean it works the same for the other countries. The US is all cruel when it comes to the animals, doesn't matter wether it is the tests done on them, or farms. I think that's an issue and in some other countries perhaps in Asia. Europe is different when it comes to animals. The eggs I buy, I know they weren't gotten this way for sure, since I buy from the people who keep them in a backyard, and they don't have all the time eggs to sell, nor meat.... And about honey, couldn't care less I'm highly allergic to it, as to many other food, so I don't have much of a choice. I am tired of reading labels all the time, whenever I want to buy food, and asking people if they used ingredients I am allergic to, especially the shops with healthy, vegan food.

I am aware, but many vegan/vegetarians I've met don't know about cruelty free products. Also, it's the bigger issue the US has, and China maybe. Because EU doesn't allow testing on animals. However, another issue is some companies claim to be cruelty free yet on China market they pay local companies to do the test. Small percent of vegans I met were aware of the issues in general, while bigger percent just wanted it cus it's 'cool', healthy.... hipsters.

I wonder too about that, why vegans avoid eggs and honey. My assumption is they consider it killing, or stealing from a mother, for those who are highly sympathetic to the suffering of animals, and then for those who're not it's just an animal product. And vegans do not eat anything that's by animals. Now, I don't understand about the honey really. I understand about the milk, but not honey. Eggs are actually nutritional.

I'd say buying from trusted people is the best way to know animal hasn't suffered, and had a good life. After all, chickens after growing up will die, and won't be eat able. So, I prefer buying halal to be sure it didn't suffer.

Then, some people just want to be vegan 'cus it' s healthy, it could be great for one person, and bad for another. The best is to consult with a doctor about the diet.

Now, it depends what does he/she wants to achive, and the reason why.


It's just surprising shocking, how many people ignore the fact about the labs doing tests on animals, even those ones that produce cat/dog food. Even more schocking is how those vegetarians/vegans claiming they don't wanna kill an innocent animal forget labs doing tests on animals. I'd rather support eating an animal, than tests done on them.

Hm... Vegan? No. But, a vegetarian, yes. I haven't used milk products tho(lactose intolerance), but kept eggs into the diary. After all, the cow milk isn't for humans. Nowadays the only meat I'd eat is chicken, occasionally and must has a halal certificate. The main issue here is finding ingredients if you're vegetarian, or vegan. You can get plants of course, but you can't eat plain dish. After all, I live in a country where people don't know how to eat if there's no meat.

You wanting to go vegan is nice, and you have my support.

Another issue we have, and I'd say vegetarians/vegans forget is, tests done on animals. Pharmaceutical and cosmetics companies use dogs for tests. Usually their choice is a Beagle since it's a domicile dog. That's also animal cruelty just like stuffing animals for ours plates.

On my own PC W10, at work Linux Fedora and on a 2nd PC Linux Ubuntu. I prefer Linux, but at home I seriously don't need it.

So are you. :'d

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