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Samael requests ~7k losses from me via my agency. Great! Check my feedback, usually have no issues. I'm a responsive and reasonable guy.
Samael starts receiving losses and does not wish to pay up front, i tell him that's fine and i will bill him sporadically. Like all my clients, i provide a spreadsheet which is linked to my team's APIs in order for him to track progress.
Samael refuses to use the sheet and instead insists on using his own events log to send me random payments whenever he felt like it (me being offline included).
I specifically tell all my clients that i will bill them when ready, and usually it's not until the end of their contract and obviously receiving payments every 10 - 300 losses is not ideal when i'm organising the provision of 7k losses.
There was also a instance where he believed he'd sent me 100m which he had not, which caused a multiple day disagreement between us:
Anyway at this point, i've repeatedly asked Samael to stop sending random payments to which he has ignored my requests so i tell him i will only deal with him on an up front payment basis. We do this, 250 losses at a time (since he only wants to pay 250 at a time). after several iterations of this, i reach out to Samael and confirm the total number he needs as we can complete 250 losses in a matter of hours and this is becoming painful for me and i'm sure him.
I agree with Samael that i will complete all his required losses and that he will pay at the end. So fast forward some time, we finish his contract on the 16th September and i ask him for payment multiple times (he owes me 1.3B) and get no response.
2 days later on the 18th, i receive a message asking if he can split the payment between then and the 20th, to which i agree. he pays ~600M on the 18th. The 20th comes along and radio silence from Samael. He still owes me 700M and it's now the 23rd of September, i message his faction leader who tries to get in touch with him. I let Samael know that i will be speaking to his faction before i do this.
Fast forward a few more days of silence to the night of the 24th/25th. and i wake up to mugs worth 50m+. Guess who paid me whilst i was offline for several hours..yep Mr Samael.
I can't see who's been mugging me but you can stop now and you can thank Samael.
Anyway, another Torn lesson learned, hopefully anyone else who has dealings with Samael will be cautious after seeing this.
Can we get a single click link to quick buy the cheapest offer of an item from item market if we're missing it and it's required for a crime (e.g. plant evidence with arson, forgery etc).
this is a great tool - the incomes of all of torn are dependent on this third party tool. Please bbeebs, don't leave us. (but yes, website currently down)
In personal statistics, given the tiny increments on racing skill, can you show the performance to 2 decimal places. That way we can actually monitor racing skill gain in a feasible way.
In the latest update, Ched mentioned we should experiment with races to see which yields the best results, but this is pretty difficult when we aren't able to track the racing skill gain other than if we look over very long time periods (years).
I'd like to be able to monitor my racing skill gain over shorter periods to identify which race behaviour gives the best growth.
Explains why i've been staring at my screen for weeks waiting for unique stars to appear for shoplifting. It would be great if future crimes were released once complete, rather than in parts to prevent expecting to be able to complete crimes when that's not the case.
Any idea why the User Information panel (where i can compare stats - xanax taken etc), doesn't always load for me? Even when i disable the extension and re-activate, the panel doesn't load. I just tested it by opening a few other profiles, which did load correctly, i went back to the profile which did not load and now loads fine. Has been happening over extended period of time intermittently.
My issue with this is that we all have a nerve bar going up at the same rate. There is no opportunity for individual player skill here. The stock market was the one place in torn we had some variety to express our own clicking skills regardless of player age, and it's been nerfed to the point of non-interest.
What other place can an individual excel at without time gated limitations where someone at some point will just create an optimisation tutorial, much like 1 of the many spreadsheets we have to identify best ROI BB's for their pitiful income gains.
i thought one of the advantages to switching to cloud was that we'd be able to do this kind of thing in the background so such disruption to live environment was minimised? why are we still waiting for a normalisation period to complete?
I think as players, we'd like to understand the reasons for this decision and expected impact (data driven).
It seems much of the disappointment is also about 'how' this update was pushed out. the fact this thread still remains in stocks VS announcements is shocking.
Additional feedback: there seems to have been minimal (if any) player discussion/considerations on this decision. We get it, it's not our game, but if this update is anything like this thread expects it to be, it's going to drive activity down. Stocks were one of the only ways the mainstream player can demonstrate skills not entirely correlated to timing barriers. If we want this game to turn into 'point and click when bars = full', then i'm probably misunderstanding the goal.
I'll reiterate from a previous message, the fairest thing to do seems to be to incorporate real life stocks into torn.
anyone talking about using passives to catch up should stop talking. passive income is negligible and also available to HOF players (mitigating any catch up you think you're doing). Stocks were the only way we could catch up via some sort of skill based gameplay (even though stocks are just RNG + potential manipulation).
I'd probably be in favour of higher fees for larger positions to combat this inflation.
Ultimately, i think granting access to real stocks would be the best option. it would transform stocks away from being casino2.0 and more closely reflects real life.
as someone who gained 14 merits from the migration, i wouldn't even be mad if those who lost merits would instead 'owe' their account back those merits. similar to how some people are on negative numbers now.
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