This is a good question. I checked a few definitions online, and I think, by the strict definition, yes. However, the way we use both words is a little bit different. Advertising is usually used to sell a product or service. The intent of the advertisement is clear and who benefits is also clear. With propaganda, as I normally hear/read the term used, there is something tricky going on. For instance in this case, the Alberta government is disguising their role in the process so, in contrast to normal advertising, the intent and beneficiary are not clear. This was the only article I could find easily that came from a reasonable source. Not that the other discussions weren't valid, but when moving quickly, it can save time to use sources with a good track record: https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveolenski/2015/08/28/4-clues-your-marketing-is-propaganda/?sh=562fa0aa7eb3 (Note: it's tuned toward marketing people, but I think the discussion is still valuable).
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I'm not a reliable enough player (both for "active" and for chaining) to be part of a faction, but because I'm an older player, I get A LOT of requests. Is this just old player privilege that I'll just have to deal with or is there a solution here that I'm missing? Thanks, in advance, for your responses.
I was just thinking about the little things that annoy me in the game, and then I go looking in the suggestion forums and sometimes I find others who are annoyed, but not always. Then, it basically goes nowhere. As a programmer myself, i would like a structured (ie in-game) way to share QOL improvements, particularly those that are interface-based. Right now, someone can suggest a good script, but that's not very efficient and it's risky. It would be lovely to have a system for:
a) suggesting JUST QOL improvements that have interface implications only
b) having someone implement that improvement
c) having a way to search and access those improvements
The example I started with here was a race-creation template. Every day, I create two races that are exactly the same. Making a race template where I can reduce that work to two clicks would be amazing. however, there are not that many of us that create this many races, so it would never get implemented by paid programmers. So, enter my idea here. Someone else with the skill and the shared annoyance just makes it happen and Torn provides a way to search and share.
Of course, it would also give Torn oversight, so they could discourage fixes that they think are unfair or taking advantage or whatever.
Thanks for reading this far, and I look forward to your suggestions on how to make my suggestion better!
Then Casual Friday is for you. If you're a high-level player and you need a break from chaining? Visit us!
If you're new and don't have much to offer a bigger faction? Visit us!
Just looking for a place to chill without recruiters bothering you? Visit us!
If you're new and don't have much to offer a bigger faction? Visit us!
Just looking for a place to chill without recruiters bothering you? Visit us!
Every city is still unique, and they keep their plushies and flowers and special actions, but otherwise, the major actions/locations are present in each city.
Pros
+ New races, crimes, whatever else you want
+ If you love/live in a city in real life, you can spend lots of time there instead of buying a bunch of stuff and dipping
+ it could broaden and deepen a bunch of mechanics without messing with the balance too much
+ could be scaled up slowly by adding one activity at a time to one city at a time
Cons
-Would be complex to implement, but who cares? This is a suggestion thread not a support group for Torn programmers :) (removed 2022-04-23 based on feedback)
- There would be more fun stuff to do? Sounds terrible.
- People hate variety?
- (Elizabeth) The game is called Torn City and it should take place mostly there.
- I'm trying to anticipate your complaints, but I'm struggling. I'll put them in here as you post them.
#ImOnlyHereForTheEggs
Pros
+ New races, crimes, whatever else you want
+ If you love/live in a city in real life, you can spend lots of time there instead of buying a bunch of stuff and dipping
+ it could broaden and deepen a bunch of mechanics without messing with the balance too much
+ could be scaled up slowly by adding one activity at a time to one city at a time
Cons
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- There would be more fun stuff to do? Sounds terrible.
- People hate variety?
- (Elizabeth) The game is called Torn City and it should take place mostly there.
- I'm trying to anticipate your complaints, but I'm struggling. I'll put them in here as you post them.
#ImOnlyHereForTheEggs
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You're right, PP. This is a great idea! I don't know why I didn't think of it :) bump
I was just thinking about the little things that annoy me in the game, and then I go looking in the suggestion forums and sometimes I find others who are annoyed, but not always. Then, it basically goes nowhere. As a programmer myself, i would like a structured (ie in-game) way to share QOL improvements, particularly those that are interface-based. Right now, someone can suggest a good script, but that's not very efficient and it's risky. It would be lovely to have a system for:
a) suggesting JUST QOL improvements that have interface implications only
b) having someone implement that improvement
c) having a way to search and access those improvements
The example I started with here was a race-creation template. Every day, I create two races that are exactly the same. Making a race template where I can reduce that work to two clicks would be amazing. however, there are not that many of us that create this many races, so it would never get implemented by paid programmers. So, enter my idea here. Someone else with the skill and the shared annoyance just makes it happen and Torn provides a way to search and share.
Of course, it would also give Torn oversight, so they could discourage fixes that they think are unfair or taking advantage or whatever.
Thanks for reading this far, and I look forward to your suggestions on how to make my suggestion better!
Keep working on this. This is a good idea. The tricky bit (IMHO) with education is that it doesn't require active gameplay (just time) and not much in terms of resources (just a bit of money). That means the benefits it brings must be small as well. If you accept that restriction (that the rewards must be pretty underwhelming), it's hard to see how much more could be done. However, if we change that calculation a bit (ie requiring more active gameplay or more time or more resources), then things can get interesting again. The homework example fits in here. If you need to do something active (like a mission) then we can give better rewards. I also love the idea of tying it in with other aspects of the game (like jobs). There are lots of opportunities for education to get more complicated and interesting. Great work!
This is a tricky one. i love the thinking done here on how the mechanic operates. I'm split. I LIKE the idea of balanced options, but I also like the idea of weaker players having something they can do against much stronger players. Both make gameplay more interesting.
I think there is a core good idea here. We need a way to differentiate things that
a) Have value to us personally
b) MAY have value to the market
c) have NO value
I'm not sure that a lock is the right solution, but I don't really care how that happens. It would be a significant Quality of Life improvement. Well done and thanks for posting!
This is a good idea. Depending on implementation, this should be fairly easy to make happen as well. Great job!
Some good ideas in here! Keep working on this one and add some more detail!
We could even get in-game sponsors to connect with company advertising purchases
Honestly, I don't even know what the HOF categories are now, but why wouldn't we want more? Good suggestion!
I think you're actually pointing to a larger problem. Perhaps the solution is not a points reset (which is admittedly of limited use), but the fact that people can get "stuck" with no good ways out the problem we need to fix.
More cars? Good.
This is a very reasonable quality-of-life improvement. I'm for it. Good suggestion!
You could basically respond this way to any suggestion to any game ever. Just because there are other games that might do a mechanic better doesn't mean we shouldn't make improvements to this game.
I like this suggestion! Great work!
I like this suggestion! Great work!
Yes! More long-term, grind-it-out merits actually help a game like this a great deal. Just because many players would choose a painful way to get it doesn't mean we shouldn't do it!
I think a suggestion can be good even if it comes from an inexperienced person. New cars would be relatively easy to add and would be a nice refresh of this little section of the game. I'm for it! We could even get a car suggester feature where you could pay in-game currency to get a car added. Or some kind of go-fund me! If your car gets added, you get a special edition of it. The possibilities are endless! Good idea!
I agree. There is a lot that can be done here. Good idea!
The thing that occurred to me immediately was to have pro sports leagues with salaries, contracts, and championships. THEN, we can bet on them too!
The thing that occurred to me immediately was to have pro sports leagues with salaries, contracts, and championships. THEN, we can bet on them too!
Then Casual Friday is for you. If you're a high-level player and you need a break from chaining? Visit us!
If you're new and don't have much to offer a bigger faction? Visit us!
Just looking for a place to chill without recruiters bothering you? Visit us!
If you're new and don't have much to offer a bigger faction? Visit us!
Just looking for a place to chill without recruiters bothering you? Visit us!
This reminds me of this scene from My Cousin Vinny, though the last part hasn't technically happened:
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini, that is a lucid, well thought-out, intelligent objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Overruled.
In all seriousness though, thanks for the thoughtful, well-researched post. And also, more work on missions please!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini, that is a lucid, well thought-out, intelligent objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Overruled.
In all seriousness though, thanks for the thoughtful, well-researched post. And also, more work on missions please!
I like the idea. How about these:
. At least one prize randomly assigned. And do it like the draft. Lower places get more tickets
. Prizes for performances with weaker cars (Best D class car or best performance with a Corsa)
This is a good direction. I'll keep thinking about it.
. At least one prize randomly assigned. And do it like the draft. Lower places get more tickets
. Prizes for performances with weaker cars (Best D class car or best performance with a Corsa)
This is a good direction. I'll keep thinking about it.
If you think of it as high-level trolling, it's actually kind of impressive.