KyRockHunter: forum

💰 SELLING ITEMS? I'M BUYING AT RRP.

Skip the market. Skip the fees. Skip the hassle.

I'm buying a growing selection of Torn items directly from players at RRP (Recommended Retail Price).

Have items sitting in your inventory that you don't want?

Send me a message and there's a good chance I'll buy them.

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🔥 SOME OF THE ITEMS I'M BUYING

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🫁 Oxygen Tanks

🔥 Methane Tanks

🪣 Buckets

💻 Heat Sinks

🏥 Boxes of Medical Supplies

🩸 Empty Blood Bags

📦 AND MANY MORE ITEMS

This is NOT limited to the items above.

If you have something you want to sell, message me with the item and quantity.

If it's something I'm currently buying, I'll give you an offer based on RRP.

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💵 HOW PRICING WORKS

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I BUY AT RRP.

Simple.

No complicated supplier levels.

No wondering what percentage I'm paying.

No need to calculate market fees.

If I'm currently buying the item, my standard offer is its Torn RRP.

Example:

Item RRP: $25,000

My price: $25,000

Quantity: 20

You receive: $500,000

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🤝 HOW TO SELL

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1️⃣ MESSAGE ME

Send:

SELLING:

Item:

Quantity:

Example:

SELLING:

Oxygen Tank

25

2️⃣ I'LL CONFIRM

I'll confirm whether I'm currently buying the item, its RRP and the total amount I'll pay.

3️⃣ SEND THE ITEMS

Once we've agreed on the transaction, send the items directly to me.

4️⃣ I SEND PAYMENT

I'll verify the items and send the agreed amount.

What we agree on beforehand is what you get paid.

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🛡️ WHY SELL DIRECT?

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✔ No Item Market listing required

✔ No Item Market sales fee on the direct trade

✔ No waiting for your listing to sell

✔ Know exactly what you're getting before sending

✔ Sell multiple different items in one transaction

✔ Less exposure to traditional Item Market buy-mugging

✔ Turn unwanted inventory into cash quickly

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📦 BULK INVENTORIES WELCOME

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Have a bunch of random items?

That's actually what I'm looking for.

You don't necessarily need to message me separately about every item.

Send me a list of what you're looking to unload and the quantities.

I'll tell you what I'm interested in buying.

Oxygen?

Methane?

Medical supplies?

Components?

Random junk?

SEND THE LIST.

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🔒 FIRST TIME TRADING WITH ME?

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Don't blindly trust somebody with millions of dollars worth of items.

Start small.

Send one item or make a small transaction first.

I'll pay you.

If you're comfortable afterward, we can do larger trades.

Trust is earned through completed transactions.

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⭐ COMPLETED A TRADE?

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Leave an honest review in this thread.

Something as simple as:

"Sold items to KyRockHunter — paid as agreed."

or

"Successful trade. Quick payment."

Good or bad, leave an honest review.

Completed trades help future sellers know what to expect.

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💰 CLEAN OUT YOUR INVENTORY

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I'm actively looking for items I can purchase and resell.

Current examples include:

🫁 Oxygen Tanks

🔥 Methane Tanks

🪣 Buckets

💻 Heat Sinks

🏥 Boxes of Medical Supplies

🩸 Empty Blood Bags

...and MANY MORE.

📩 MESSAGE KyRockHunter [4427231]

Send:

SELLING:

[Item]

[Quantity]

Multiple items are welcome.

💰 RRP BUYING

📦 BULK INVENTORIES WELCOME

🤝 DIRECT PLAYER-TO-PLAYER TRADES

Have something collecting dust?

LET'S MAKE A DEAL.

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🍺 ROCK BOTTOM IS HIRING — MANAGER 🍺

Growing 1★ Pub looking for an active Manager to join the team.

IDEAL STATS:

• 6,000+ END

• 3,000+ INT

Don't quite meet those numbers? APPLY ANYWAY!

Applicants with lower stats WILL be considered. Pay will be based on working stats, activity, and Employee Effectiveness merits.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR:

• Active daily

• Low drug addiction

• Employee Effectiveness merits preferred

• Someone interested in growing with the company

💰 PAY: Up to $200k/day

Based on stats, activity & EE merits.

Rock Bottom is a young company experiencing rapid growth with an active director, employee bonus program, regular training, and opportunities to grow alongside the company.

We're building for the long term and looking for someone who wants to be part of it.

📩 Message KyRockHunter with your stats if interested.

Apparently even a 😂 is enough to cause emotional damage around here. I'll try to be more mindful of the fragile nature of our emoticon-sensitive users and avoid triggering any further emoji-related emergencies.

On a serious note, though, to the actual GFX creators here who put real time, skill, and effort into their work: I sincerely apologize if anything I posted came across as disrespectful toward you or your craft. That genuinely wasn't my intention.

As for the tantrum-throwing morons, I'll do my best not to trigger their childlike behavior in the future. 

I'm going to make this my final comment on the subject.

I came here with an idea for making some Torn money by offering custom AI-generated character images.

People objected to my use of the term "AI-assisted." Someone explained why that wording could be interpreted differently by the Graphics community.

Fair enough.

I listened.

I rewrote the advertisement.

It now explicitly says AI-GENERATED. It explains that the images aren't hand-drawn or digitally painted by me. It explains exactly what AI does, what I do, and what a customer would be paying Torn dollars for.

In other words, when somebody gave me constructive criticism, I took it seriously and changed the post accordingly.

Apparently that still isn't enough.

I've now had repeated bounties placed on me simply for offering something that some people personally dislike.

And that's the part I genuinely don't understand.

We're playing a game built around people finding different ways to make money, compete, trade and interact. Nobody is required to purchase what I'm offering. Nobody is being deceived. If the service has no value, the market will decide that very quickly — I'll get zero customers.

But there's a big difference between saying:

"I think your product sucks and wouldn't pay $1 for it."

and:

"I don't approve of how you're playing, so I'm going to use my greater resources to make your experience miserable until you stop."

If that's the intention here, congratulations. You've made your opinion extremely clear.

But this kind of behavior is also how communities drive people away.

Newer and smaller players try things, make mistakes, learn how the community works and hopefully find their own place in the game. Using your wealth or strength to punish someone until they conform to your personal preferences doesn't improve that community.

And ultimately, that hurts Torn too.

I'm a Torn donator. I'm under no illusion that Torn is going to notice one person's donation disappearing or that losing my money is going to hurt the game financially.

It won't.

But when behavior like this repeatedly drives players away, eventually it does matter.

People don't continue financially supporting games they no longer enjoy playing.

And that's where I'm at.

I came here, tried something new, listened when legitimate criticism was given, changed the advertisement accordingly, and still ended up repeatedly targeted because some higher-level players don't approve of what I'm doing.

So I won't be renewing my donation.

I'll take my time and money and find another game to enjoy instead.

Not because somebody disliked my AI images. People are completely entitled to dislike them.

It's because I have no interest in spending my free time in a community where disagreement turns into repeatedly using in-game wealth and power to make another player's experience miserable until they conform or leave.

If you don't like AI artwork, don't buy AI artwork.

If you think my service is overpriced, don't buy it.

If you think people can easily make these themselves, I genuinely encourage them to do exactly that.

That's how a market works.

I've said what I needed to say.

Everyone else can make up their own mind.

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🍺 ROCK BOTTOM IS HIRING — MANAGER 🍺

Growing 1★ Pub looking for an active Manager to join the team.

IDEAL STATS:

• 6,000+ END

• 3,000+ INT

Don't quite meet those numbers? APPLY ANYWAY!

Applicants with lower stats WILL be considered. Pay will be based on working stats, activity, and Employee Effectiveness merits.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR:

• Active daily

• Low drug addiction

• Employee Effectiveness merits preferred

• Someone interested in growing with the company

💰 PAY: Up to $200k/day

Based on stats, activity & EE merits.

Rock Bottom is a young company experiencing rapid growth with an active director, employee bonus program, regular training, and opportunities to grow alongside the company.

We're building for the long term and looking for someone who wants to be part of it.

📩 Message KyRockHunter with your stats if interested.

Well, I is sorry, massa. You be the boss man now and all us chilluns...

Apparently even a 😂 is enough to cause emotional damage around here. I'll try to be more mindful of the fragile nature of our emoticon-sensitive users and avoid triggering any further emoji-related emergencies.

On a serious note, though, to the actual GFX creators here who put real time, skill, and effort into their work: I sincerely apologize if anything I posted came across as disrespectful toward you or your craft. That genuinely wasn't my intention.

As for the tantrum-throwing morons, I'll do my best not to trigger their childlike behavior in the future. 

🖕 

But the bounties will be a nice addition to the bank account so keep them coming.

Ps. Idgaf

I'm going to make this my final comment on the subject.

I came here with an idea for making some Torn money by offering custom AI-generated character images.

People objected to my use of the term "AI-assisted." Someone explained why that wording could be interpreted differently by the Graphics community.

Fair enough.

I listened.

I rewrote the advertisement.

It now explicitly says AI-GENERATED. It explains that the images aren't hand-drawn or digitally painted by me. It explains exactly what AI does, what I do, and what a customer would be paying Torn dollars for.

In other words, when somebody gave me constructive criticism, I took it seriously and changed the post accordingly.

Apparently that still isn't enough.

I've now had repeated bounties placed on me simply for offering something that some people personally dislike.

And that's the part I genuinely don't understand.

We're playing a game built around people finding different ways to make money, compete, trade and interact. Nobody is required to purchase what I'm offering. Nobody is being deceived. If the service has no value, the market will decide that very quickly — I'll get zero customers.

But there's a big difference between saying:

"I think your product sucks and wouldn't pay $1 for it."

and:

"I don't approve of how you're playing, so I'm going to use my greater resources to make your experience miserable until you stop."

If that's the intention here, congratulations. You've made your opinion extremely clear.

But this kind of behavior is also how communities drive people away.

Newer and smaller players try things, make mistakes, learn how the community works and hopefully find their own place in the game. Using your wealth or strength to punish someone until they conform to your personal preferences doesn't improve that community.

And ultimately, that hurts Torn too.

I'm a Torn donator. I'm under no illusion that Torn is going to notice one person's donation disappearing or that losing my money is going to hurt the game financially.

It won't.

But when behavior like this repeatedly drives players away, eventually it does matter.

People don't continue financially supporting games they no longer enjoy playing.

And that's where I'm at.

I came here, tried something new, listened when legitimate criticism was given, changed the advertisement accordingly, and still ended up repeatedly targeted because some higher-level players don't approve of what I'm doing.

So I won't be renewing my donation.

I'll take my time and money and find another game to enjoy instead.

Not because somebody disliked my AI images. People are completely entitled to dislike them.

It's because I have no interest in spending my free time in a community where disagreement turns into repeatedly using in-game wealth and power to make another player's experience miserable until they conform or leave.

If you don't like AI artwork, don't buy AI artwork.

If you think my service is overpriced, don't buy it.

If you think people can easily make these themselves, I genuinely encourage them to do exactly that.

That's how a market works.

I've said what I needed to say.

Everyone else can make up their own mind.

I think we're looking at this from two completely different perspectives.

We're playing a game where a huge part of the gameplay is figuring out ways to earn in-game money. People trade items, run companies, fly for plushies, mug, gamble, flip markets, sell services, and countless other things to make Torn dollars.

That's what I'm doing.

Could I sit in Photoshop for several hours manually creating a piece from scratch? Sure. But why would I invest hours into every order when the payment I'm receiving is fake in-game currency?

If Torn allowed me to sell artwork here for real-world money, then the economics would obviously be different and the amount of time I'd be willing to invest into each commission would be different too.

Instead, I've found a tool that lets me create something I think looks cool, customize it for another player, make revisions, and exchange that service for Torn cash. I've also been completely transparent that AI is being used.

That's really all this is.

What I don't understand is why people keep turning their personal preference about AI into a requirement for how somebody else should play the game.

If you enjoy spending hours manually creating graphics for Torn, genuinely, more power to you. That's your way of enjoying the game.

This is mine.

If someone likes what I'm offering and thinks it's worth their Torn dollars, we make a trade. If they don't, they keep their money.

Seems pretty Torn-like to me.

Interesting assumption. I actually do have Photoshop.

AI is one tool I'm choosing to use, not the only tool I have access to.

But I appreciate the unsolicited investment advice. 😂

I've updated the thread to explicitly say "AI-GENERATED," explained exactly what I do, what the AI does, what customers are paying for, and even clarified that I am not a traditional GFX artist.

Have I finally earned the Torn Graphics Department Seal of Approval, or is there another form I need to fill out? 😂

I think that's where our disagreement is.

If I ran a bakery, bought a store-bought cake, and advertised it as "homemade," then absolutely — I'd be misleading customers and deserve to be called out.

But if my sign clearly said, "Store-bought cakes customized and decorated to your specifications," and somebody knowingly chose to pay me for that convenience, that's a completely different situation.

I'm not advertising hand-drawn or traditionally created artwork. "AI-assisted" was disclosed from the beginning. The customer knows what tool is being used before spending anything.

There's also an actual cost on my end. I pay for the AI subscription and tools I'm using. I'm offering access to those tools along with my time spent developing the concept, generating and evaluating results, making requested changes, and working with the customer until we arrive at something they're happy with.

Could someone pay for their own AI subscription, learn the tools, and do all of that themselves? Absolutely. I'm not claiming otherwise.

You may believe that isn't worth paying for, and that's a perfectly reasonable opinion. The customer gets to make that same decision.

If nobody sees value in the service, nobody will buy it and it'll disappear naturally. I don't think we need pitchforks to figure that out — the market is pretty good at it.

Honestly, I expected some pushback. What I didn't expect was quite this level of hostility over simply offering a service.

I checked the rules beforehand, made sure AI-generated work was allowed, clearly disclosed how the images were being created, and priced it as a convenience service. I've never claimed to be a traditional GFX artist or tried to deceive anyone about what they're buying.

I understand that AI is unpopular with a lot of people here, and that's fine. Nobody has to like it, buy it, or even think it's worth $1.

But personally, if I walk past a business selling something I don't like or don't see value in, I don't go inside and try to ruin the owner's day or interfere with their business. I just don't buy the product and move on. I guess I expected roughly the same courtesy here.

If someone likes the examples and thinks the service is worth the price, they're welcome to order. If they don't, that's completely fair too.

Apparently I underestimated just how strongly some people here feel about AI. Lesson learned. 😅

I understand your position, and I think we're just going to disagree on the value of the service.

Yes, someone can absolutely open an AI generator and make their own images. I've never claimed otherwise.

People can also wash their own cars, design their own websites, edit their own photos, or learn any number of things instead of paying someone else. A service doesn't require the customer to be incapable of doing it themselves.

What I'm offering is my time handling the generation, customization, revisions, formatting, and getting the result the customer wants. I've clearly disclosed that AI is involved so everyone can decide for themselves whether that's worth paying for.

If nobody thinks it's worth the price, I won't get customers and the market will answer the question for us.

I respect that you wouldn't pay for it. That's completely fair. I'm going to leave it there rather than turn the thread into another AI debate.

Well, the advertising campaign is officially working. 😂

10 bounties at $200k each because I posted an openly disclosed AI-assisted graphics service.

For anyone actually interested in ordering, the launch special still stands.

Everyone else is welcome to keep bumping the thread. 👍

Fair criticism. I'm not claiming I'm sitting here digitally painting these from scratch, and I've clearly disclosed that the images are AI-assisted.

What I'm offering is a service for people who don't want to spend their time figuring out prompts, going through bad generations, correcting details, and going back and forth until they get something they're happy with.

If someone would rather use AI themselves, absolutely — they should. They aren't my customer.

I'm offering convenience, customization and revisions to people who like the results and would rather pay Torn cash to have someone else handle the process.

I'm happy to let the examples speak for themselves. If there's no market for it, the market will make that pretty clear.

Do you have nothing better to do?

Im not pretending to offer anything except expressly mentioned. If it do3snt appeal to you then great move on.