SA vs JFK: a war thread reposted, mocked, and closed after a nine-hour war
In April 2015 Ali reposted a war thread for a Subversive Alliance rank war against JFK. The thread drew jokes, a Hydro dispute and reviver complaints, and ran to 598 replies before it was locked.
Involved: Ali [1445620] , IceBlueFire [776] Officer , Penicillin [1517799] Committee , Stretch [1846075] Officer , _Cynic_ [206537] and 8 more
A second attempt at a war thread
Ali [1445620] opened "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" on 28 Apr 2015. The post gave the date as Sunday May 3rd at 1800hrs TCT, with SA to declare for rank.[1]
The stated terms were three guests for SA, locked rosters and no DBs. The post told JFA and MnC to keep trolling out, and warned that off-topic posts would be reported and earn a forum ban.[1]
By the archive's last fetch the thread had 598 replies and 8,975 views, with 119 players posting. It is locked and now sits in the Graveyard board.[2]
Mockery before the war
Bezee [1685702] posted a mock guide to farming karma with a war thread: lay troll baits, send in the faction's trolls, then pretend to be fussed and start a new thread. Penicillin [1517799], a Torn officer/committee member, replied that Bezee had forgotten a Step 5, pretending to be staff who can issue forum bans. Joke[3][4]
boo [1544641] asked whether it was necessary to create the thread again after seeing how the last one went. _Cynic_ [206537] joked that JFK encourages charity work so members feel less guilty when they show none while warring. Joke[5][6]
Stretch [1846075], a Torn officer/committee member, wrote on 29 Apr 2015 that Stretch hoped the war would have as many fireworks as the pre-war forum threads.[7]
The Hydro question and reviver claims
On 01 May 2015 critch [507888] asked why Hydro was now in JFK, and whether as guest or permanent member. Z_junior [247674] replied that Hydro had been in JFK throughout Hydro's Torn life and quoted stats from when Hydro joined. Participant claim[8][9]
_Cynic_ answered critch by asking the same of SA. IceBlueFire [776], a Torn officer/committee member, posted a faction log line showing _Cynic_ had left the faction, and joked about lending a hazmat suit to SA.[10][11]
On 04 May 2015 SuperBeast [340191] complained that Little Stompers, Milk and Cookies, TUS, JFA and PT were attacking SA, attacking and bountying its revivers, and reviving JFK. Allegation[12]
Robb-Stark [1075937] said they stood by their reviver script accusations, claiming eight people had revived them via private chats and all were hospitalised within a minute. Allegation[13]
Myhedin [1348461] congratulated JFK and said only 15 people from a few factions stalked revivers. They said revivers were identified using personal stats graphs. Participant claim[14]
After the war
IceBlueFire wrote on 04 May 2015 that the war had lasted 9 hours. They also wrote that the real reason for gladness at its end was so the thread could finally die.[15][16]
Ali congratulated JFK on the win, alleged that JFK had needed many hangers on and had to bribe people, and asked for a grave. animelive [1564720] wrote that it was not a real war when multiple outsider factions conspire to drive one participant down. Allegation[17][18]
boo wrote that they would stop if SA kicked Trish and Ali. Dave [272331] wrote that the main thing taken from the war was that the system needs to cater for longer wars.[19][20]
On 04 May 2015 g_ho [1261819] started a Suggestions thread arguing that closing a war thread should need permission from all factions involved. On 05 May 2015 ded [341315] linked the SA v JFK thread there.[21][22]
Timeline
- 28 Apr 2015 Ali opens the SA vs JFK thread, announcing a rank war for 3 May.[1]
- 1 May 2015 critch asks about Hydro's place in JFK; Z_junior and _Cynic_ answer.[8][9][10]
- 4 May 2015 After the war, players trade reviver accusations; IceBlueFire says it lasted 9 hours; Ali asks for a grave.[13][15][17]
- 5 May 2015 ded links the thread in a Suggestions thread about who may close war threads.[22]
Original sources 22
- Post by Ali [1445620] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Thread "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" (Graveyard) ·
- Post by Bezee [1685702] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Penicillin [1517799] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by boo [1544641] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by _Cynic_ [206537] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Stretch [1846075] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by critch [507888] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Z_junior [247674] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by _Cynic_ [206537] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by IceBlueFire [776] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by SuperBeast [340191] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Robb-Stark [1075937] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Myhedin [1348461] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by IceBlueFire [776] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by IceBlueFire [776] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Ali [1445620] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by animelive [1564720] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by boo [1544641] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Post by Dave [272331] in "Let's Try This Again... SA vs JFK" ·
- Thread "War Threads belong to 2+ Factions, not 1" (Suggestions) ·
- Post by ded [341315] in "War Threads belong to 2+ Factions, not 1" ·
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