Upgrade guide

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AngryVGNerd [1530413] · 45 likes · 5 Sep 2014
Car | Class | Name | Top Speed | 0-60 | Brake Dist. | Top Speed | Acceleration | Braking | Handling | Dirt | Tarmac | Safety | Class A | Bugatti Veyron | 253 | 2.5 | 120 …
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Its believed that 100 lap custom races build skill faster, I think skill is based on laps not races. 100 laps in a 10 min wait or less to start gains more laps than the 10 laps average for an …
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AngryVGNerd [1530413] 12 Aug 2014, 03:21 TCT · #1 · edited

Part I

There is no instant gratification in racing, just like everything else in Torn it will take a while to master. Most or All cars by now (except the bugatti) have individually been fully upgraded to the specs of individual tracks by top racers. There has been bigger diversity of cars in best lap global records then before. As more players experiment with different cars I think new cars may emerge as best lap records.

Safety items didn't do anything before or now. My crashes always rotate in the same exact order. 1st crash 3 upgrades lost, 2nd crash 2 upgrades lost, 3rd crash 1 upgrade lost, all safety equipment or none. One comment was they might effect the quality or point cost of the upgrade you loose when you crash but I would still get them last.

If there is any green on the track indicating dirt that means all dirt is best(maybe the way the coders made it?). The cross tires are useless and making transmission tarmac and suspension dirt or vise versa combinations seem to slow every car i tried different combinations on, on every track. Its either all dirt or all tarmac in this basic style racing sub game.

Turbo 3 is the better choice for 95% of the cars in all classes specially when you're starting out. Turbo 2 does have a purpose later in racing when you start upgrading individual cars for individual tracks but until you have progressed far enough to find any of the "part III" relevant I would recommend turbo 3 on all your cars.

All Tarmac: Adjustable Coilover Suspension, Paddle Shift Gearbox and Track Tyres
All dirt: Group N Rally Suspension, Rally Gearbox and Rally Tyres

There are only 6 choices of upgrades that determine long or short in the transmission upgrade options. Rally Gearbox's or Paddle Shift Gearbox's are the only 2 I would suggest you use on any car. Long ratio tracks are the ones with big straightaways and short ratio tracks are the ones with a lot of shorter lengths between turns.

Merits

Racing	[image: i.imgur.com]	Reach Class A
[image: i.imgur.com]	250 wins in the same car

Class E - 0 upgrade points earned
Class D - 25 upgrade points earned
Class C - 100 upgrade points earned
Class B - 250 upgrade points earned
Class A - 475 upgrade points earned

Best single well rounded cars for maximum tracks for all lower classes in my opinion, message me for questions.

1)		Volvo 850	Class E	short ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3
My best record in Speedway 00:32:35 RD_	It is the record in all 3 long ratio tracks and with the short ratio option to best balance it out it is a top competitor on 9/16 tracks making it the most versatile E class car.
1b)		If you wanted a second E class car I would get the Vauxhall Corsa turbo 3 for all the short ratio tarmac tracks and then set your Volvo long ratio for Withdrawal, Speedway and Convict.
2)		Toyota MR2	Class D	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3
My best lap in Withdrawl 02:13:82 RD_ Top record in Convict 01:10:33 RD_	This is a car I had pre respo and it was record on all 3 long ratio tracks for the longest time after respo. It performs well on most of the tarmac tracks having good acceleration as well.
2b)		If you want a second D class car I would get Honda Accord long ratio, turbo 3 all tarmac to fill in on the tracks that need better handling and breaking power.
3b)		Honda Integra R	Class C	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3
My best lap in Uptown with the R 01:20:60 RD_	This car is very balanced making it a top performer on 25% of the tracks long ratio.
3)		My best lap in Speedway with Z06 00:29:22 RD_	The second C class choice is my original Chevrolet Corvette Z06 with the same specs as the Integra R for Speedway and Docks as well as being versatile in many of the tarmac tracks.
4)		Ford Mustang	Class B	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3
My best lap in Speedway 00:27:62 RD_	Being the car with the highest mph always has it's benefits and thats the case here as well as performing well on most tarmac tracks.
5)		The second car for class B would have to be the Sierra Consworth to cover 25% of the tracks using short ratio all dirt turbo 2 and this car will also be the top performer in Mudpit when you get to A class.

Best Upgrade Choices

Aerodynamics	Air Forced Engine Cooling 4 points, Air Cooling Ducts for Brakes 6 points, Adjustable Rear Spoiler 6 points, Front Diffuser 8 points, Rear Diffuser 8 points	32	points
Brakes	6 Pot Uprated Brakes 10 points, Brake Balance Bias Control 6 points, Competition Racing Brake Pads 6 points, Grooved and Drilled Brake Discs 6 points, Braided Brake Hoses 4 points, Fast Road Brake Fluid 4 points	36	points
Engine	Competition Racing Camshaft 6 points, Stage Three Turbo Kit 18 points, Stage Three Remap 10 points, Bored Out Engine + Forged Pistons 6 points, Front Mounted Intercooler 6 points, Competition Racing Fuel Pump 6 points, Competition Polished Throttle Body 6 points Ported and Polished Head 3 points	61	points
Exhaust	Custom Forced Induction Kit 6 points, Stainless Steel 4-1 Manifold 6 points, Full Exhaust System 6 points	18	points
Fuel	Super Octane Fuel Plus Nitrous 6 points	6	points
Suspension	All upgrades available Group N Rally Suspension or Adjustable Coilover Suspension	36	points
Transmission	Paddle Shift Gearbox (Long ratio) or Rally Gearbox (Short ratio) 10 points, Ultra-Light Flywheel 6 points, Competition Racing Clutch 6 points, 4 Pin Differential 4 points, Quick Shift 2 points	28	points
Weight Reduction	all available	35	points
Wheels and Tyres	Ultra-Lightweight Alloys 8 points, Rally Tyres or Track Tyres 6 points	14	points
Ready for competition with turbo 3	1st cell 45 upgrades without any safety items, 2nd cell with all safety items, required point totals	266 total	311 total
Ready for competition with turbo 2	1st cell 45 upgrades without any safety items, 2nd cell with all safety items, required point totals	260 total	305 total

Factory Car Statistics

Car	Class	Name	Top Speed	0-60	Brake Dist.	Top Speed	Acceleration	Braking	Handling	Dirt	Tarmac	Safety
	Class E	Honda Civic	118	11.2	157	12	8	8	4	4	8	8
	Class E	Citroen Saxo	90	10.0	157	4	12	8	8	4	8	8
	Class E	Fiat Punto	98	11.0	157	4	8	8	12	4	8	8
	Class E	Renault Clio	121	11.3	157	12	4	8	8	4	8	8
	Class E	Classic Mini	75	13.0	163	8	8	4	12	4	8	8
	Class E	Nissan Micra	106	11.6	150	8	8	12	4	4	8	8
	Class E	Reliant Robin	75	13.0	163	8	8	4	12	4	8	8
	Class E	Vauxhall Corsa	99	10.2	150	4	8	12	8	4	8	8
	Class E	Peugeot 106	109	10.0	163	8	12	4	8	4	8	8
	Class E	Volvo 850	121	11.3	157	12	4	8	8	4	8	8

Car	Class	Name	Top Speed	0-60	Brake Dist.	Top Speed	Acceleration	Braking	Handling	Dirt	Tarmac	Safety
	Class D	Toyota MR2	140	7.7	150	20	16	12	16	12	16	16
	Class D	Honda Accord	130	9.6	144	16	12	16	20	12	16	16
	Class D	Hummer H3	98	9.3	137	16	16	20	12	16	12	16
	Class D	BMW X5	124	9.8	137	16	16	20	12	16	12	16
	Class D	Seat Leon Cupra	123	7.5	144	12	20	16	16	12	16	16
	Class D	Alfa Romeo 156	129	7.6	150	16	20	12	16	12	16	16
	Class D	Vauxhall Astra GSI	150	8.8	144	20	12	16	16	12	16	16
	Class D	Volkswagen Beetle	126	8.4	144	12	16	16	20	12	16	16
	Class D	Volkswagen Golf GTI	128	8.2	144	12	16	16	20	12	16	16
	Class D	Chevrolet Cavalier	139	9.2	144	20	16	16	12	12	16	16

Car	Class	Name	Top Speed	0-60	Brake Dist.	Top Speed	Acceleration	Braking	Handling	Dirt	Tarmac	Safety
	Class C	BMW Z8	155	5.8	124	25	20	29	25	20	25	25
	Class C	Firebird	168	6.2	131	29	25	25	20	20	25	25
	Class C	Audi TT Quattro	155	5.7	131	20	29	25	25	20	25	25
	Class C	Chevrolet Corvette Z06	170	5.9	131	29	25	25	20	20	25	25
	Class C	Ford Focus RS	163	5.7	137	25	29	20	25	25	20	25
	Class C	Mini Cooper S	143	6.4	131	20	25	25	20	20	25	25
	Class C	Holden SS	165	6.0	131	29	20	25	25	20	25	25
	Class C	Audi S3	155	5.7	131	25	29	25	25	20	25	25
	Class C	Honda S2000	150	6.0	124	25	25	29	20	20	25	25
	Class C	Honda Integra R	145	6.5	137	25	25	20	29	20	25	25

Car	Class	Name	Top Speed	0-60	Brake Dist.	Top Speed	Acceleration	Braking	Handling	Dirt	Tarmac	Safety
	Class B	Dodge Charger	190	4.7	118	37	33	33	29	29	33	33
	Class B	Porsche 911 GT3	160	4.0	118	35	37	33	33	29	33	33
	Class B	BMW M5	186	5.2	118	37	35	33	33	29	33	33
	Class B	TVR Sagaris	185	4.7	124	33	33	35	37	29	33	33
	Class B	Subaru Impreza STI	158	4.2	118	33	37	33	35	33	29	33
	Class B	Mitsubishi Evo X	155	4.5	118	33	37	33	35	33	29	33
	Class B	Sierra Cosworth	137	5.1	118	35	33	33	45	33	29	33
	Class B	Lotus Exige	148	4.2	118	35	33	33	37	29	33	33
	Class B	Ford Mustang	192	4.8	124	37	33	29	33	29	33	33
	Class B	Audi S4	155	5.4	111	33	35	37	33	29	33	33

Part II

It seems by watching the races you can't learn anything unfortunately, the way certain cars get passed or pass others makes no sense sometimes. You would assume the highest mph cars would accelerate on straightaways and fall back on turns but no. The racing portion of the game I don't think is that sophisticated and the wins seem predetermined so, the actual race would be just for show.

In A class short ratios transmissions work better on some of the tracks that appear long ratio because of the insane top speeds they already have. In classes B and lower what appears long ratio usually is in my opinion.

Best 4 A class cars to own.

1)	Ferrari 458	Class A	short ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	tracks: Uptown, Underdog, Docks and Vector
I am still testing Ferrari (even know its one of the 1st I owned). When building my fleet the Ferrari turbo 3 won me most of my points.
2)	Honda NSX	Class A	short ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	tracks: Commerce, Industrial, Sewage and Meltdown
When I had lower skill and was trying to perform 25% of the tracks with this one car turbo 3 seems to work better. Later on you can choose turbo 2 or 3 for this car depending on what tracks want the to perform best on. I would say Underdog, Commerce and Sewage are turbo 2 tracks for the NSX but stick with the turbo 3 being more versatile and only seconds different with either option.
3)	Audi R8	Class A	short ratio	all dirt	turbo 3	tracks: Parkland, Two Islands, Hammerhead, Stone Park and Mudpit
Like the NSX I would suggest turbo 3 to start, later on you can switch to turbo 2 when you no longer need this car to cover all 5 dirt tracks if you want to experiment turbo 2 on seemingly short ratio dirt tracks. The consistency of wins is higher with turbo 3. The NSX is better for dirt but the NSX is better for everything and the R8 was an instant winner to replace the NSX for dirt tracks.
4)	Lexus LFA	Class A	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	tracks: Withdrawal, Speedway and Convict. (Docks alternative)
This car is the top dog on long ratio tracks and extremely competitive in any track with decent straightaways. Excellent handling on top speeds makes this car a excellent point winner. Next car to get for point building and complete the set to cover all 16/16 tracks
5)	Sierra Consworth	Class B	short ratio	all dirt	turbo 2	track: Mudpit

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ripp3r [667086] 12 Aug 2014, 09:15 TCT · #2 · edited

whats ur DS?

btw u r missing track - stone park :)

ripp3r [667086] 12 Aug 2014, 15:32 TCT · #3

ferrari and nissan

aston martin and mercedes

honda and AUDI

these A class cars are almost identical (at least on the paper) i d say could be used as substitutes and perform the same

AngryVGNerd [1530413] 12 Aug 2014, 21:09 TCT · #4 · edited

ripp3r [667086]ferrari and nissan

aston martin and mercedes

honda and AUDI

these A class cars are almost identical (at least on the paper) i d say could be used as substitutes and perform the same

That's right! This is a way to pick and choose cars for similar tracks with similar stats. All the cars you listed atm have global records. Most of my test cars are similar to the global record holding cars in stats to replace the Ferrari, LFA and NSX for the tracks those cars are already in use.

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ripp3r [667086] 13 Aug 2014, 08:48 TCT · #5 · edited

the question i how many ppl (good drivers) tried fully upg both of them

ur cars has almost everyone, so do I

i saw audi and nissan in top 5 records so dont bs me

and respo is here not that long that u can make final conclusion based on plain observations

AngryVGNerd [1530413] 5 Sep 2014, 03:51 TCT · #6 · edited

Car	Class	Name	Top Speed	0-60	Brake Dist.	Top Speed	Acceleration	Braking	Handling	Dirt	Tarmac	Safety
	Class A	Bugatti Veyron	253	2.5	120	46	46	30.5	30.5	26.5	38	38
	Class A	Mercedes SLR	208	3.7	105	45	41	41	37	29	41	41
	Class A	Ferrari 458	202	3.4	105	37	45	41	41	29	41	41
	Class A	Aston Martin One-77	220	3.5	105	45	41	41	37	29	41	41
	Class A	Lexus LFA	202	3.6	111	45	41	37	41	29	41	41
	Class A	Lamborghini Gallardo	202	3.4	105	41	45	41	37	29	41	41
	Class A	Ford GT40	205	3.7	98	41	37	45	41	29	41	41
	Class A	Audi R8	187	3.8	105	37	41	41	45	29	41	41
	Class A	Nissan GT-R	200	3.3	105	37	45	41	41	29	41	41
	Class A	Honda NSX	165	5.0	98	37	37	45	45	29	41	41

Part III

As for the turbo, you can see in the racing section in forums the turbo 2 gives TOP SPEED + 5 ACCELERATION +5 OVERALL BENEFIT +10 and the stage 3 turbo TOP SPEED +7 ACCELERATION +4 OVERALL BENEFIT +11

I found in class A most all cars work best short ratio with turbo 3. Some cars with highest mph work best with turbo 2 like the GT-40 and Aston Martin One-77. Some tracks would realistically be best with turbo 2 but in Torn racing turbo 3 seems to be the best for many cars even the Ferrari 458 in tracks like Vector? Withdrawal and Speedway are defiantly turbo 3 tracks, I use the Lexus LFA on.
Next set of cars to consider after having the first 5 point winning cars working for you. These are for those looking to set records or have better cars for individual tracks.

6)	[image: torn.com]	Ford GT-40	Class A	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	tracks: Vector, Commerce and Docks (does well in sewage and meltdown short ratio turbo 2)
7)	[image: torn.com]	Aston Martin One-77	Class A	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	tracks: Uptown and Convict
8)	[image: torn.com]	Nissan-GTR	Class A	short ratio	all dirt	turbo 3	tracks: Stone Park and Two Islands
9)	[image: torn.com]	Lamborghini Gallardo	Class A	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	tracks: Uptown and Docks
1 track car for record setting (poor consistency best record setter)
10)	[image: torn.com]	Mercedes-SLR	Class A	long ratio	all tarmac	turbo 3	track: Convict
The GT-40 has better single lap time in Commerce and Vector but overall less of a winning ratio compared to 458 or One-77.
Mercedes SLR is milliseconds faster in Convict but less consistent to win so I would save points and use the LFA or One-77 until you have all your point earning cars maxed in upgrades.
Lamborghini Gallardo has better single lap time in Uptown but less consistent to win (without 30.0-40.0 skill) compared to the One-77.
The Galardo is cool but its one of the last cars besides the SLR I would suggest to own as there purposes are most limited.

Skill is the big factor but your cars also have to be geared properly. I'll sometimes loose 5 races in a row then win a race I forgot to select the right car for, it's sometimes odds and luck with the matchups to. Individual lap times can vary 15 seconds lap to lap on some tracks so know your average before making an upgraded and being surprised you didn't beat one of your own best personal times on the 1st race. I go by my lap time average to check consistency and test upgrades one at a time on about 500 laps. If everyone is doing it right your chance of winning also get divided.

Not knowing about respo and what it would do I wasted over 1,500 points on cars I don't need.

I totaled around 4,600 points total since I started racing more then a year ago.

I have been in around 4,500 races so far

Driver Skill 21.7

More info and tips

1st 5 tracks listed here are the dirt tracks
I tested both the R8 and GT-R rally v.s. rally-cross v.s. dirt tranny and suspension combinations at the expense of several points to identify upgrades for these tracks. They are "all dirt" and "short ratio" despite the fact they look like there is only small amounts of dirt on the track, for some reason that's just they way it is. I used turbo 3 on these tracks with my R8 and SLR to get my current best lap times as of now. I did set my personal best lap with my Consworth turbo 2.
Track	Image	Info	Notes
Parkland		Track Info: A large indecisive track through the center of the city which is kinder to cars with higher handling and breaking. It contains a tortuous windy dirt road which drivers have dubbed 'the noodle', mastering this section can be the difference between 1st and last place.	My turbo 3 best lap record with my R8 beats my turbo 2 best lap record.
Two Islands		Track Info: This track has you racing through the financial district, slingshotting around the coast of two separate islands. It demands considerable handling, "rally tires are recommended".	This is the only track that suggest anything helpful to upgrading and it's accurate.
Hammerhead		This large track with soft bends with favor those with better braking and handling. It's feature piece is a small island in the middle of a lake which is connected by two rickety old bridges. Optimising for the threatening scenic dirt path may be a wise choice.	The NSX is the top competitive car on these 4 tracks. In this Guide the NSX is used for tarmac tracks so the R8 is the best to use followed by the GT-R. All short ratio, all dirt.
Stone Park		Track Info: Torn is well known for it's legendary Stone Park race track. Designed by racing professionals and quotes as 'the perfect track'... It was carefully crafted so that it demands a balance of all statistics.	My turbo 3 best lap record with my SLR beats my turbo 2 best lap record.
Mudpit		One of only three official racing circuits in Torn, this rally track is very unforgiving to those who have not tuned their car for off-road use. 4 wheeled drive vehicles will probably have the most luck.	You can't beat the Class B Consworth on this track. My turbo 2 and 3 best lap records are only milliseconds difference.
All the rest listed below are the all tarmac tracks
Docks		This sprint through the Docks has several long straights followed by harsh 90 degree bends. Freight and heavy goods vehicles are also commonplace for an unlicenced race event. This track requires a great deal of both acceleration and speed for the win.	Riddle of the Docks, This is the only track that I am as far as 5 seconds away from the record. I have tried both short and long ratio with several cars. I believe this is one track that driver skill makes all the difference as the record holders have a skill of over 30.0 and more like 40.0+. The NSX even hit the records for this track showing its more about the acceleration then the top speed.
Uptown		A simple yet slightly unnerving track in one of the richer districts in Torn including smooth bends of all shapes and sizes. Drivers will probably find speed and acceleration more rewarding due to the two lengthy straights and lack of hard corners.	short ratio, all tarmac. This track needs high m.p.h. and fast acceleration. My best lap record is with turbo 2 One-77.
Withdrawl		This ginormous track loops around the bay and crosses both bridges to and from the financial district. With few tight corners, those with higher top speed will be more likely to come out on top.	long ratio, turbo 3, all tarmac
Underdog		A short and sweet track just outside of the official raceway with tight corners and tight straights, favoring cars with higher acceleration. A common unofficial track for drivers of all skill levels.	short ratio, all tarmac
Commerce		This short circuit in the shopping district requires an almost even balance of statistics. One side features a smooth, calm straight, on the other an unforgiving slalom.	short ratio track, all tarmac
Vector		Sitting just above the Docks, this track is filled with razor sharp corners but provides solace with a lengthy straight to end the lap. Speed, acceleration, braking and handling all play vital roles in this balance circuit race.	My turbo 3 best lap record with my 458 beats my turbo 2 best lap record.
Sewage		This drive around Torn's water treatment plant will surprise you around every corner. It features a vast array of different bends and corners, catering very well to cars with higher breaking.	short ratio, turbo 2 all tarmac track
Meltdown		Tear through this goliath power plant sitting on a peninsula of Torn's coast. Handling and braking will be required in order to handle the high-speed bends around the funnels and sharp corners.	short ratio, all tarmac
Speedway		Torn's official Speedway is built for not much more then pure speed and handling. Deceptively simple, one wrong move will totally wipe out your vehicle.	long ratio, turbo 3, all tarmac
Convict		This illegal street race ironically flies past the entrance of Torn's jail, and continues around to form a circuit. Due to it's four almost identical straights speed is the essence.	My short ratio, turbo 2 One-77 beats my long ratio, turbo 3 LFA. all tarmac

ripp3r [667086] 10 Sep 2014, 17:09 TCT · #7 · edited

"Substitute the NSX for the Audi R8 (class A)
short ratio, all dirt except for rally cross tires
tracks: Parkland, Hammerhead and Stone Park."

has anyone managed to test all the combination (tires/ratio), which is the best?

acording ur manual i dont understand why would u even want to buy GT40 (and also u dont mention upg for GT40 so i guess u dont own it so u havent tested it urself so far)

Butters [34298] 10 Sep 2014, 23:37 TCT · #8

ripp3r [667086]"Substitute the NSX for the Audi R8 (class A)
short ratio, all dirt except for rally cross tires
tracks: Parkland, Hammerhead and Stone Park."

has anyone managed to test all the combination (tires/ratio), which is the best?

acording ur manual i dont understand why would u even want to buy GT40 (and also u dont mention upg for GT40 so i guess u dont own it so u havent tested it urself so far)

He did mention the GT40 - it would have the same upgrades as the ferrari - short ratio, all tarmac.

As for the Audi - well considering it is replacing the NSX you would probably go with the same set up you normally would for an dirt-track NSX initially (eg. short ratio, all dirt except for rally-cross tires). In terms of what works best for a dirt-track Audi in the long run, well why not experiment yourself instead of expecting to be told by someone else?

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ripp3r [667086] 11 Sep 2014, 13:58 TCT · #9

- well about GT40 it isnt mentioned there (obviously RD wants to share his knowledge, just trying to make his manual better)

- some ppl work and dont have 16h per day for playing games

- TC racing isnt national secret, at the end ll everyone know whats the best for each track dont understand why u must talk so aggressive

Butters [34298] 11 Sep 2014, 22:20 TCT · #10 · edited

He did mention the GT40 there:

Upgraded list of cars to own after testing, lots of testing still to be done.

1st 3 cars to upgrade you should already have if you raced pre respo.

Ferrari 458 (A Class)
short ratio, all tarmac
tracks: Uptown, Underdog, Docks and Vector.

! Ford GT40 has better time by milliseconds but use Ferrari and save points until you have all cars maxed in upgrades.

? short ratio Ferrari has better time then long ratio Lexus for me

It would be logical that a GT40 that is competitive with ferrari's on short handling-based tracks would also be short ratio, all tarmac.

As for the rest, meh I wasn't "talking aggressive" at all - it's a reasonable suggestion for you to go try to figure it out for yourself instead of expecting to be told, so you need to toughen up a little if you think I was attacking you personally in any way.

It's not like it takes hard work or "16 hour" playing days as you've suggested, just start off with the same setup in an Audi that you'd use for an NSX (short ratio, all dirt, rally cross tires) and keep an eye on how the it does on the different dirt tracks for you and tweak an upgrade here or there as needed.

Whether you do this over a week if you're racing a lot or a month if you're racing less frequently it doesn't matter as long as you keep track of your results - if you're lagging behind then try to watch a few races on the dirt tracks when they happen to see where the Audi is fast or slow and tweak away accordingly.

p.s. As for the snide remark about "having to work" - well my usual working week falls somewhere between 55 and 60 hours normally - I just check in regularly on my phone for a minute or so every couple of hours to train / race / do crimes (if I'm unable to log on from a PC or laptop).

AngryVGNerd [1530413] 13 Sep 2014, 21:08 TCT · #11 · edited

Its believed that 100 lap custom races build skill faster, I think skill is based on laps not races. 100 laps in a 10 min wait or less to start gains more laps than the 10 laps average for an official race with the hour wait to start. The laps times you get in custom races also qualify for personal and global records.

My best laps records (as of sometime 2015)

Track Name	Track Image	Car	Formula	Best Lap	Engine
Industrial		Honda NSX	short ratio, all tarmac	01:18:18 RD_	turbo 2
Uptown		Lamborghini Gallardo	short ratio, all tarmac	01:12:45 RD_	turbo 3
Aston Martin One-77	short ratio, all tarmac	01:12:52 RD_	turbo 2
Ferrari 458	short ratio, all tarmac	01:12:67 RD_	turbo 3
Withdrawl		Lexus LFA	long ratio, all tarmac	01:52:73 RD_	turbo 3
Underdog		Ferrari 458	short ratio, all tarmac	01:26:25 RD_	turbo 3
Honda NSX	short ratio, all tarmac	01:26:53 RD_	turbo 2
Parkland		Audi R-8	short ratio, all dirt	02:33:31 RD_	turbo 3
Docks		Ferrari 458	short ratio, all tarmac	02:46:52 RD_	turbo 3
Lamborghini Gallardo	short ratio, all tarmac	02:47:76 RD_	turbo 2
Aston Martin One-77	short ratio, all tarmac	02:48:63 RD_	turbo 2
Commerce		Ford GT-40	short ratio, all tarmac	00:50:16 RD_	turbo 2
Ferrari 458	short ratio, all tarmac	00:50:34 RD_	turbo 3
Honda NSX	short ratio, all tarmac	00:50:38 RD_	turbo 2
Two Islands		Nissan GT-R	short ratio, all dirt	01:41:06 RD_	turbo 3
Audi R-8	short ratio, all dirt	01:41:58 RD_	turbo 3
Vector		Ferrari 458	short ratio, all tarmac	01:00:82 RD_	turbo 3
Ford GT-40	short ratio, all tarmac	01:00:86 RD_	turbo 2
Mudpit		Sierra Consworth	short ratio, all dirt	00:35:81 RD_	turbo 2
Hammerhead		Audi R-8	short ratio, all dirt	00:56:13 RD_	turbo 3
Sewage		Ford GT-40	short ratio, all tarmac	01:36:20 RD_	turbo 2
Honda NSX	short ratio, all tarmac	01:36:41 RD_	turbo 2
Meltdown		Honda NSX	short ratio, all tarmac	00:57:14 RD_	turbo 3
Speedway		Lexus LFA	long ratio, all tarmac	00:26:56 RD_	turbo 3
Stone Park		Audi R-8	short ratio, all dirt	01:12:28 RD_	turbo 3
Nissan GT-R	short ratio, all dirt	01:12:92 RD_	turbo 3
Convict		Aston Martin One-77	short ratio, all tarmac	00:59:89 RD_	turbo 2
Lexus LFA	short ratio, all tarmac	00:59:98 RD_	turbo 3

I now have 16 fully upgraded cars, 8 A class, 2 B class, 2 C class, 2 D class and 2 E class!

I did join a car dealership for 1 extra racing point a day for a while. Now I need to travel more and have a different job for expenses. Butters [34298] and ScHiZoPhReNiC [535496] have been collaborating information to help people start racing.

(Mechanic Shop)
1 star Machinist + Racing point (5 job points)
3 star Discount Parts - 25% discount on car parts (Passive)
5 star Junkyard Dog + Random car (5 job points)
7 star Refurbish Lose no car parts after crashing (Passive)
10 star Driver + 25% driving skill gain (Passive)

(Car Dealership)
1 star Test Drive + Racing point (5 job points)
3 star Discount parts - 25% discount on car parts (Passive)
5 star Salesman No item market fees (Passive)
7 star Two-Faced + 25% fraud success rate and skill gain (Passive)
10 star Getaway car + 95% run away chance (Passive)

(Gas Station)
1 star Machinist + Racing point (5 job points)
3 star Discount Parts - 25% discount on car parts (Passive)
5 star Arsonist + 25% vandalism success rate and skill gain (Passive)
7 star Molotov Cocktail + Molotov Cocktail (5 job points)
10 star Blaze of Glory + 100% molotov cocktail damage (Passive)

I believe there will be more updates to racing as long as a lot of players are interested so, keep racing and who knows what events and/or rewards may come for competitive racers in the future :)

I was asked if drugs affect races. In all my experience no drugs do not affect the races. I always take Xanax for training and also always on a max alcohol cooldown so I'm rarely ever not on a drug cooldown. My winning ratio is always positive and I continue to beat my own personal records from time to time. I think it would be cool if there was an update were drugs or items could affect racing positively or negatively which would make things more challenging and interesting maybe we can hope for in the future. I always wait until I receive the icon showing I have a drug addiction before I rehab and never took more drugs beyond that so I can't speak for the real druggys of Torn. I did crash today after an OD but I'm not convinced crashes or lap times are drug related as they seem to me they are just random.

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AngryVGNerd [1530413] 14 Sep 2014, 00:25 TCT · #12 · edited

ripp3r [667086]whats ur DS?

btw u r missing track - stone park :)

I updated some of the info on all of my posts so you wouldn't still think I was bullshitting you :P

DS 21.7

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AngryVGNerd [1530413] 20 Sep 2014, 02:42 TCT · #13 · edited

1st 5 tracks listed here are the dirt tracks
I tested both the R8 and GT-R rally v.s. rally-cross v.s. dirt tranny and suspension combinations at the expense of several points to identify upgrades for these tracks. They are "all dirt" and "short ratio" despite the fact they look like there is only small amounts of dirt on the track, for some reason that's just they way it is. I used turbo 3 on these tracks with my R8 and SLR to get my current best lap times as of now. I did set my personal best lap with my Consworth turbo 2.
Track	Image	Info	Notes
Parkland		Track Info: A large indecisive track through the center of the city which is kinder to cars with higher handling and breaking. It contains a tortuous windy dirt road which drivers have dubbed 'the noodle', mastering this section can be the difference between 1st and last place.	My turbo 3 best lap record with my R8 beats my turbo 2 best lap record.
Two Islands		Track Info: This track has you racing through the financial district, slingshotting around the coast of two separate islands. It demands considerable handling, "rally tires are recommended".	This is the only track that suggest anything helpful to upgrading and it's accurate.
Hammerhead		This large track with soft bends with favor those with better braking and handling. It's feature piece is a small island in the middle of a lake which is connected by two rickety old bridges. Optimising for the threatening scenic dirt path may be a wise choice.	The NSX is the top competitive car on these 4 tracks. In this Guide the NSX is used for tarmac tracks so the R8 is the best to use followed by the GT-R. All short ratio, all dirt.
Stone Park		Track Info: Torn is well known for it's legendary Stone Park race track. Designed by racing professionals and quotes as 'the perfect track'... It was carefully crafted so that it demands a balance of all statistics.	My turbo 3 best lap record with my SLR beats my turbo 2 best lap record.
Mudpit		One of only three official racing circuits in Torn, this rally track is very unforgiving to those who have not tuned their car for off-road use. 4 wheeled drive vehicles will probably have the most luck.	You can't beat the Class B Consworth on this track. My turbo 2 and 3 best lap records are only milliseconds difference.
All the rest listed below are the all tarmac tracks
Docks		This sprint through the Docks has several long straights followed by harsh 90 degree bends. Freight and heavy goods vehicles are also commonplace for an unlicenced race event. This track requires a great deal of both acceleration and speed for the win.	Riddle of the Docks, This is the only track that I am as far as 5 seconds away from the record. I have tried both short and long ratio with several cars. I believe this is one track that driver skill makes all the difference as the record holders have a skill of over 30.0 and more like 40.0+. The NSX even hit the records for this track showing its more about the acceleration then the top speed.
Uptown		A simple yet slightly unnerving track in one of the richer districts in Torn including smooth bends of all shapes and sizes. Drivers will probably find speed and acceleration more rewarding due to the two lengthy straights and lack of hard corners.	short ratio, all tarmac. This track needs high m.p.h. and fast acceleration. My best lap record is with turbo 2 One-77.
Withdrawl		This ginormous track loops around the bay and crosses both bridges to and from the financial district. With few tight corners, those with higher top speed will be more likely to come out on top.	long ratio, turbo 3, all tarmac
Underdog		A short and sweet track just outside of the official raceway with tight corners and tight straights, favoring cars with higher acceleration. A common unofficial track for drivers of all skill levels.	short ratio, all tarmac
Commerce		This short circuit in the shopping district requires an almost even balance of statistics. One side features a smooth, calm straight, on the other an unforgiving slalom.	short ratio track, all tarmac
Vector		Sitting just above the Docks, this track is filled with razor sharp corners but provides solace with a lengthy straight to end the lap. Speed, acceleration, braking and handling all play vital roles in this balance circuit race.	My turbo 3 best lap record with my 458 beats my turbo 2 best lap record.
Sewage		This drive around Torn's water treatment plant will surprise you around every corner. It features a vast array of different bends and corners, catering very well to cars with higher breaking.	short ratio, turbo 2 all tarmac track
Meltdown		Tear through this goliath power plant sitting on a peninsula of Torn's coast. Handling and braking will be required in order to handle the high-speed bends around the funnels and sharp corners.	short ratio, all tarmac
Speedway		Torn's official Speedway is built for not much more then pure speed and handling. Deceptively simple, one wrong move will totally wipe out your vehicle.	long ratio, turbo 3, all tarmac
Convict		This illegal street race ironically flies past the entrance of Torn's jail, and continues around to form a circuit. Due to it's four almost identical straights speed is the essence.	My short ratio, turbo 2 One-77 beats my long ratio, turbo 3 LFA. all tarmac

AngryVGNerd [1530413] 20 Sep 2014, 02:58 TCT · #14 · edited

ripp3r [667086] 22 Sep 2014, 14:24 TCT · #15

riddle of docks

almost 10s diff too :/

The_Trader [1673789] 11 Oct 2014, 11:20 TCT · #16

what does short and long ratio mean ??

paulio4545 [564762] 16 Oct 2014, 11:45 TCT · #17

what i don't get is how the f**k can the Consworth beat the Subaru Impreza STI on dirt? subaru looks much better in stats, plus calls itself the "rally king" and "has trouble on tarmac" in its description.

Soon as get 265 points i'll fully upgrade it and just see how it compare vs the mudpit top times. or find someone close to my driving skill.

Also how the hell is the lexus better than the aston martin... on withdrawel? not too sure if i'm missing something or are people just going off the leader boards. aston martin with its significantly bigger top speed.

keroo [1787856] 17 Oct 2014, 16:49 TCT · #18

i don't understand how NSX can come 1st with that little max speed in those tracks

Ilshaad [830344] 18 Oct 2014, 14:45 TCT · #19

have no idea what's short/long ratio ~_~

Butters [34298] 20 Oct 2014, 01:21 TCT · #20

Ilshaad [830344]have no idea what's short/long ratio ~_~

That's referring to the gearbox in the transmission category.

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