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Russian Roulette Cheating

Started by Maruto [1634194] on in Bugs & Issues.

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OTHELLO [890484]

I suppose the only people who can verify if there is cheating are Staff/Ched.

It all depends on the algorithm used to determine a winner. Not to say that its impossible, but the odds are stacked against you winning all the time as every win you get increases the probability that you will lose the next one. (Thats why casinos dont want gamblers on a winning run to leave, as the longer the continue to play, the higher the chances of them losing their earlier winnings and then some.

So if the staff can check how much he started the game with (given his young age), together with how much he has gambled (in total) and his win/loss ratio, they should be able to get a relative gauge if there has been cheating or use of scripts.


YNMK [1877410]

True, I agree.

The only thing I'm trying to convey is however small the chance may be, there is still a chance of it happening.

The chances of winning the slot jackpot might be 1/50000 but still it does happen at some point.

It's just not necessary that he was using a script or cheating.

He could be though no doubt, considering that too that all the games he won were started by him and the one he din't start, he lost.
aurel1 [1046304] Admin Staff

Well, you have a win/loss ratio 1.03 atm, it's not very bad? Also, each next game is an independent event, if you won (or lost) in the first one this will not mean, that you increased/decreased your chance in the next one anyhow?

P.S. Please don't turn the bug threads in discussion - in this case it's sometimes hard to catch the basic sense - but if you have some facts or possible explanation it's worth to post of course.
Maruto [1634194]

i know my wining Ratio , Aurel. but the problem is that the max loses any player made ever were 7 loses in row if he plays on one side , but for a player to lose 9 games in row getting all shots in turn on my side is what makes it hard to believe and it 's also hard to believe it was for same player in 6 games ..... i played alot of games before , losing and winning but never experienced a player going into all that winning streaks ,
JussiJernkuuk [1874922]

You always have a 50/50 chance, how you or your opponent have done previously does not matter. Thus it is unlikely he will have another winning streak like that but it is still entirely possible.
aurel1 [1046304] Admin Staff

You mean that you lost to the same player and this is strange? So far I don't see any cheating signs in logs. Even more, you played 6 games with that player, and starting bullet position was different in ALL this games.
Maruto [1634194]

i lost 3 games before i play him then 6 against him and one later against another player so my losing streaks reached 10 ....while his winning streaks as u can see from his picture he uploaded or from what he said in Chat was high percent of winning streaks on same night and he'sn 't the only one with that winning streaks, there's also another named
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1875860 [1875860]

There is a big difference between chance and cheating. While a dice has only a 1/6 chance to end up on a 6, it's possible to roll a six a hundred times in a row. It's just rare.

As any casino game, it's a game of chance and luck. Being lucky does not make you a cheater. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
ChrissyTheBlack [1882708]

So my friend from school and I got banned for middleman but we both had a good streak on Russian roulette so we must be good xd cheaters xd ahah





Thank you for your 3.3b that I earned LEGIT
Maruto [1634194]

3,3 bil. is small compared to what i have but still i don 't like abusers and what u say makes things worse for u
animelive [1564720]

that is very fishy xD but as aurel said the bullet position was different in every game so let it go, mate. gambling is not your thing.
kyle8048 [488020]

I does seem likely there could be something going on aurel. There could be some sort of exploit even if the shots were in different positions.

Check if the screen shots weren't fabricated to see if these streaks did happen.

It's hard to tell. At the same time 9 games in a row is a 1/500 chance of happening which is not improbable.

chrissy and piglet are in the same 2 man faction too both with access to 'each-others' money.
Mr_Red [1693261]

Sepha I think you need to grow up, my worst losing streak was something stupid like 18 game sin a row if I recall right I've lost tons to rr in the name of a bit of fun. The fact that you lost so much money is not on Torn it is on yourself and the fact that you had to air this in public both talking about a single player (against rules) and complaining about something which is obviously n ot cheating is disappointing to say the least.