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IBB vs JFA territory war. FTW & Relentless join in

Started by Has [1164812] on in Faction Discussion.

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Dekloren [900534]

I don't understand why people are whining about anything.

There's nothing to whine about.

This is finally the product of what the JF family has been doing over the past year or 2 coming to a culmination into a giant ****ing war between everyone who is anyone.

And it is ****ING AWESOME.

Stop ****ing whining and work your asses off.

JF's fight has been nothing but respectable. The Rebel Alliance is Subversively Forging through the JF family Relentlessly with many more than One Punch.

****in' eh.
Harley [258120] Wiki Contributor



Did I say it sucks? lol, I think all the drama is amazing. Just wondering why people not involved are so affected by this (which doesn't mean your faction btw Vajsan, as last I checked you're involved :O).
BFM [1455642]

JF groups have been using this tactic for a long time already. So in the new system which Ched and JF factions have been pushing towards more alliances and friends. So we finally jump on the bandwagon since these days you have to If you even want a chance of surviving and all of a sudden it's a big deal. Seems like it's only acceptable when you guys can have friends help.

No one is crying about your 19 guests plus others that have come and go. Just pointing out both sides are using there alliances. Some of us just didn't have to kick our members out to make room. lol
mug [553318] Committee Committee

i plan to never talk to think about it again.

by far the most expensive and drawn out war i've ever been in. All this just to move one space, no reward at all the only reward is taking or defending a 50 daily respect earning territory.
Mat-Senpai [952164]

Yeah BFM, not a single post in the 20 pages of posts that have any whining about us, not a single one.

(more interesting a comment on JF using such tactics on a system which hasn't really been used must until now)
Mat-Senpai [952164]

Sorta agree, more of a statement at this point, I don't see a war on this scale again and it'll be interesting in the future the factions who get beat down far harder because of choices made here.
kukk [249085]

Deft are you just blind or what?
The war was fine at first, but then 50% of the hosps that I received were from outsiders, fast forward 12 hours, The wall was level 92+ an 9 of them were outsiders. We didn't have a single outsider in our faction / on wall.
Like 95% of IBB couldn't even deal 1 damage to the 'guest wall'. What reaction would you expect from that?
In the beginning it was going back and forth. But then JFA started to throw mud.
Not trying to be salty, just telling you that the currenct situation from IBBs side is a reaction to the events from JFAs side.

Nothing wrong about losing a fair war, but throwing mud in peoples faces then pointing fingers. Sounds like politics.
Lets set it straight, there are 3x 0 day strong members in IBB , 13 hours ago there were 19 90+ 0 day players in JFA. The points are on the wall, and guess that is the reason why you don't settled with having them just to hit from the outside (they did), but to strengthen the wall as well.
deft [979003]

Congrats on being the bigger man standing on the moral high ground of not removing inactive members for some guests in a free for all world war. Whatever it takes to make you feel better about being behind, especially the JFA vs FTW one you started ;)
CindyFury [345050]

The issue here is not with the people joining walls we shouldn't be holding knifes st each other but at ched this war system sucks ASS!
Majsan [843586]

Meant that territories suck...not the dramatic crying by JFx. Tbh the drama is the only thing fun about this. Joining that wall isn´t that fun. To summarize, I don´t like territories but I like the drama and crying it creates.
Mat-Senpai [952164]

I do hope ched looks at this and understands that all this activity isn't a good sign, it's not a fun system - it's removing the idea of "factions" - it's becoming "sides"

this'll be the most active war i imagine in the game for sometime and for a shitty bit of land i don't see it happening again.
deft [979003]

I wasn't present for the early hours of the war. Regardless, JFA beats IBB straight up, hands down, I don't see how there's any argument to be made there.

I've been monitoring the attack logs as I always do while warring and I've provided my honest perception of what's happening on our end. A vast majority of ours that are being hosped are from outside factions and not IBB. IBB is still fighting, just more sporadically and not as much, the same way it would be if the war was straight up. I hope some nerds can produce tornstats logs to show what's going on, it would be interesting to see things factually rather than contrasting perceptions.
taktikz [7800]

I believe the "rules" and limitation of guests and insistence on termed wars, has created a stagnant HOF, where actual wars where both sides actually fight are rare and far between.

I pray that this new volatility kicks off a new norm which will see actual warring again.
JussiJernkuuk [1874922]

The IBB wall is just one reason, there is an FTW wall too and a regular war against Relentless, all that meant we were overstretched quickly. Realistically speaking there was never a chance of settling the first assault on a 1v1 basis, the escalation was inevitable and it doesn't make much sense to speculate who would have won under different circumstances.