who cares

So many threads... so many flames.  It'd be all to easy to join in the sarcasm.  I've made a few posts calling out the spoiled, selfish, self centered behavior... but overall I tried to stick to facts as I've seen them and respond to only those with actual intelligent arguments or points to be made.

I made a chart for those that are data nerds like me, or maybe just like to visualize to understand, and/or those who still don't understand just what a difference 1/5th of a team can make:

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That's the top 200 players on every team graphed by their xanax usage.  Yes, I should also include SEs.  Yes, some of those high xanax numbers could have been used for things other than stats.  Overall, it's a pretty good indicator of how hard it is to beat someone in combat.

So, the stacked top 200 of PP have xanax use of 2800 or better, whereas EVERY other team has a max of 40-70(ish) people in that same 2800 or better range.

It would take 3-5 teams worth of people to even begin to handle that imbalance.  That's not even accounting for activity levels or average player wealth which are also greatly skewed from the same stacking.  Oh yeah, and all that stacking keeps the curve higher all the way down because of the slots it filled.

Eh... slightly beaten to death already...

So much karma in all the salt memes flying the other direction...

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Thanks so much Ched!

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Edit: Credit to Mauk for the script I used to compile the data.

Edit: renamed... this thread was supposed to be about data, the karma stuff kinda seeped in. :/

Wow. I forecast salt as they try and make out that they are still the victims in the face of this evidence.

#TheSaltening2017

ps top sleuthing, gg

I don't expect to see much salt on here.

Keep to the facts, stats not NaCl

(Facts > NaCl + Sarcasm * Self Entitlement)

Shrugs

The graph just shows how good the team allocation process is when you don't game the system. Fairly even allocation across the other teams, with the exception of the one bottom grey team.

That was 'Murica.

Sorry, Excel would only let me assign so many colors :/

And... Technically, Pacifists data is missing... because someone didn't want to share his own team's info, LOL!

I think my real concern is the OP's profile picture. It needs way more analyzing and discussion then some silly old statistics.

Top 200 by hits or level? Not everyone in the '204' made hits, there are some at 0. And not everyone in the top 200 in PP changed gender. Obviously there still seems to be a difference though, so either the players who did change made a huge difference, or there are more factors.

9 of the 11 people at the 10* Gent's strip club I'm at went PP. 1 isn't in the comp, 1 went another team. There are a decent amount of 10* Gents Clubs, and they are filled with active players who are focused on getting bigger battle stats, with high enough work stats to get a job at a 10* Gents. I'm guessing the other 10* also mostly went PP.

Not saying this is a bigger factor, just that it probably contributed to the strength of PP.

It's from the Pirates adult movie (or series of movies)... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0477457/ "one of the most expensive adult movies ever made"...

It seemed fitting given my choice of elimination team. [:laughing:]

So you are very clearly biased, why should I take any graphs you make to mean anything?

Because the facts are the truth, PinkPower cant handle the truth, they prefer lies, deciet, subtrafuge, and traitorous acts of cowardice.(no disrepect to the real girls in PP)

Proof: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=2&t=16018662&b=0&a=0&start=40&to=18015729

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"That's the top 200 players on every team graphed by their xanax usage."

I never tried to say or imply that all of their top 200 changed gender. Certainly some didn't. I'm just showing what a difference was made by that influx of high level gender benders.

Oh, I am 100% certain that 204 is not an all inclusive number of all that chose to stack PP. Some folks just happened to have already been female when they decided jump on the PP bandwagon. Good luck finding all of them. (IE, not gonna happen)

Why would anyone want to find them? They didn't do anything wrong. You now have a problem with people who DIDN'T change gender, but chose PP because they heard they were going to be strong? What loophole did they exploit? If anyone that was female did do this, what reason is there to be upset with someone for joining the strongest team available to them? I just don't understand why everyone wants to jump all over PP members, when it was Ched that set this all up. If you don't like the rules, blame him, not the people that played within them.

I don't particularly care if you choose to believe me or not. I'm just sharing what I found from digging through data and making a graph.

Just some copy, paste into notepad, copy past into excel (because the stuff wouldn't paste directly into excel), point the chart to the ranges, etc...

Feel free to fact check it all you want: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=61&t=16018049

Its funny that not many PP members are posting on a a thread that has the actual data and is meaningful.

What loophole?

Randomization bypass in order to stack 1 team. Females get to choose 3 teams + PP while everyone else 4 random teams.

If everyone had a right to pick ANY team that'd would be perfectly fine, but what you did is wrong.

It wasn't intended to stack one team thus players get to chose 4 RANDOM teams out of 12, except females. That is a loophole and should be reported rather than abused.

Torn rules say anything to gain advantage, abusing it should result in a ban. Be happy you ain't.

Is this the top 200 xanax users based on their entire membership?

Or the average xanax taken across the top 200 hitters in each team?

Edit: I did post in another forum hoping someone would make something like this...

If you have the time, I'd love to see how the top 20 factions are actually spread & also how the top 100 stats (according to Proxima's list) is spread.

Cause, curious.

very nice analysis

Question, if the top 150 players in TORN would have got together in a group on facebook and decided to join, lets say Murica, and then kick everyones a$$......would that have been cheating?