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Nash's Guide to Nerve Bar (Revived)

Started by Alexstrasza [1825532] on in Graveyard.

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Sothe [1816548]

While I'm here, I guess I have a question. Does anyone know roughly how much crime exp swift/thorough robbery gains relative to warehouse arson, or any other metric?
Alexstrasza [1825532]

That's actually a really good question. No idea. I would guess that it's actual level, not true level, that's used.

The only way to really tell would be to get one of the high level holders - beerstein, james85, saucy_jack - to jail themselves and see if a low level can bust them.
Sothe [1816548]

Awesome, thanks. :)

I wanna know whether I should recommend jackets or robberies for newbies in my faction haha.
Metaldog [1996277]

4 nerve theft: 1000 nerve, divided by 4 nerve, multiplied by 1n multiplied by 100% success rate = 250n
8 nerve drug: 1000 nerve, divided by 8 nerve, multiplied by 4.5n, multiplied by 83% success rate = 467n
9 nerve computer: 1000 nerve, divided by 9 nerve, multiplied by 4.5n, multiplied by 75% success rate = 375n
10 nerve murder: 1000 nerve, divided by 10 nerve, multiplied by 6n, multiplied by 75% success rate = 450n
11 nerve arson: 1000 nerve, divided by 11 nerve, multiplied by 9n, multiplied by 95% success rate = 777n
15 nerve kidnapping: 1000 nerve, divided by 15 nerve, multiplied by 27n, multiplied by 60% success rate = 1080n

Only caveat I'm worried about, is 15 nerve kidnapping before 55 nnb, otherwise thanks for awesome revival of guide! Those numbers have always been a mystery
Eddeh [23878] Wiki Contributor

Really nice work on that portion of the guide, you're breaking new ground!



Edit: Forgot to add #FedNash
fuad [2088400]

I'm at 20 nnb currently and currently doing arson warehouse, how much arsons do I have to do till I get 25?

these are my crime history
Type of crime
Times done
    • Selling illegal products
    • 319
    • Theft
    • 2,863
    • Auto theft
    • 0
    • Drug deals
    • 0
    • Computer crimes
    • 0
    • Murder
    • 0
    • Fraud crimes
    • 13
    • Other
    • 43
    • Total
    • 3,238
you see already did 13 in total, I know this is way too early
MightyGoober [812478]

I highly appreciate what you're doing here.

I really hope Ched releases (which he won't) what the numbers behind crimes 1.0 were when 2.0 comes out. Maybe there is a hidden gem in there. Like whoever decided that warehouse was the best? Does anyone even try the other ones anymore?
lickdapoo [1827223]

great guide to follow if you want to increase your ce...

might wanna mention that it is in fact possible to have a well established pa team WITHOUT pre nerf busters... we seem to be doing just fine with one of our teams[:cool:]

also... ce gains from pa are decent, so participating in a team does help quite a lot when it comes to ce gains post 60nnb...

furthermore busting is worth the nerve imo.. sure gains are slim now.. but its the same story as with jackets... do a few thousand and youll have great returns^^esp if you have faction or job perks, like reduced nerve cost, higher skill and %.. 10+ a day is doable without any struggle. all adds up over time
dunmugmeh [538353]

It is too early for you to be doing arson warehouse with a 20 nerve bar. A lot of nerve will be wasted on reds and blues. You need to have a strong 25 nerve bar to do arson warehouse properly.

When your nerve bar is right you can get way over 80% greens on arson warehouse.
fuad [2088400]

Yea I tried arsons for some while, and wondering when will I get 25, then I got it right after I posted that
CloudJumper [1636201]Staff

Busting considers the level that is displayed on your profile page, and not your TRUE level. Basis for this is that I was able to bust out Griffon4 (low level PA jailed member and a level holder), and never was able to bust any other PA jailed member.

Looks great to have numbers posted over here and thanks for reviving the guide to spark new discussion.

I would recommend testing busts (will take a LONG time, so probably do it last), PAs, PHs and maybe ever RMT and PR. You could stay off crimes and test how many OCs it takes to regain 60 nnb back. I have a low ball estimate for PAs (about 250x arsons per success). And don't worry about putting 55 nnb in a PA team, with a strong buster, 55 nnb can be dragged in a team.

I would be also keen in knowing the CSR you get from faction during the testing phase. That better be constant across all the tests.

Here are my numbers:

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Good Luck!

CJ
ProfessorBlake [2098045]

I am still at 15 nerve with 100 other crimes, and working on 1000 thefts (at 130+) and dabbled in a few others prior. When should I expect an increase to 20?
Alexstrasza [1825532]

WAOW. Great numbers.

I will try and digest this into my results and see if I can come up with any guesses as to how much CE might be required to go through levels.