Small explosive devices & Bug abuse?

There are two seperate issues I'd like to report:

Context: I've been hitting enemy faction players on the wall and "holding" them at 0 life. During this time they are unable to get on the wall or do many things. One of these players uses SED's which causes issues.

First issue: An attack log isnt created when I hit a player, hold him at 0 life and he self hosps using a small explosive device.

It shows up on my feed but when I click on it no log exists. Ignore the scribbles and just focus on the yellow part ;):

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https://www.torn.com/loader.php?sid=attackLog&ID=fda1e23e091e6cd8771cc68975ba0cfd Is the link which leads to "
No log with id fda1e23e091e6cd8771cc68975ba0cfd".
 
 
Second issue:
Small explosive devices are not supposed to be able to get you out of a loss where you are being held at 0 life anymore. This was discussed about a year ago and if I remember correctly Chedburn decided to change things so that the attacker could still hold someone at 0 life, for the duration of the attack, even if they self-hosped using a SED.
 
I've tested the mechanics in the past in detail and I am sure that this was not possible until recently. I'm hesitant to accuse Penicillin of bug abuse for doing this, but it does reek a little fishy to me.
 
Could it be clarified whether this is within the rules or not please?

Second issue is a duplicate of https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=treads&f=19&t=16084478&b=0&a=0

Edit: more specially this post by Ched https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=19&t=16084478&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=19161858

If you use this thread for SED bypassing attack loss, can we also talk about the Leslie action too? I think if you're on 0 life you shouldn't be able to open parcel's nor open Casino (prevents Leslie's hosp action). Then, what do you do about crimes? There's still OC's but that seems hard to plan so the few random times it works shouldn't be able to be abused.

 

No, he's saying that sed's will end the attack now. Something was changed.

I'll pass to Chedburn for some clarification.

Exactly. Even on the finishing screen without doing anything it will end the attack. Pretty sure it also happened when I just refreshed the page instead of hitting.

Its a change I didnt know of that literally happened in the last week. I'm fine with it and now that I know its within the rules I will do it exactly like you did, only better.

You wont care since you cant actually beat me very often, but Z and Gonzo should be feeling a little miffed now.

I just attacked td3h 2 minutes ago, I was holding then went to press Hospitalize and got "Incorrect userID" and there's zero log of the attack.

More stealth changes to mechanics that only committee members know about?? #shocked #not

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Small explosive devices & Bug abus...
 
AND a report. Hit a nerve, did I?

This just occured again twice in the past few minutes, 1 where there's no log against HT-supermikk, same as I described and the other against Hildegarde [2050558]  it says attack timed out but I didn't get hosped despite it being timed out

I've just had the incorrect userID thing happen to me twice whilst attacking bright [1345609] I held him twice for around 4 min 30 and then when i went to click hosp i got the incorrect user id message and it went back to start fight screen. I also don't have any attack logs in my latest attacks section 

Check the other B&I thread on this recently appearing problem:  https://www.torn.com/forums.php?p=threads&f=19&t=16085560&b=0&a=0

The HT-Supermikk one is not in my attack, nothing happened, no evidence of the attack, my energy gone. It just happened a 3rd time once again "Incorrect UserID" with Td3h again. 

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