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Chit [1380260]
If you've ever participated in Elimination, you know how hard it is to keep leaks to a minimum and how near impossible it is to out a spy. But what if I told you, that you could still be spied on even without either of those things?

Shortly after sending the message that we'd be farming through Keyboard Warriors until the end of the hour in Elimination chat to prepare Band of Mothers, I get a message randomly from a Keyboard Warriors member with a message along the lines of "How about NO? Leave us alone" right after they had sent me my own message to me.

I honestly think nothing of it, because at the time I just think it's a spy doing their work and we'd have to adjust accordingly. A little banter later, and I get "We have all your chats open though. Almost every team we have chats open". With my curiosity peaking, I ask for a screenshot and get this:

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My first thought is that it's similar to how a Discord server can pull the chat log from Global and Trade, but instead...It's Elimination chat. My second thought is "If they can do this for Elimination, why couldn't they do it for any faction?" After asking others if it was a elaborate prank or if I should message bogie, the decision is made to message bogie. Here is the chat:

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I honestly consider this the end of the road. But the longer it goes on, the longer it starts to pick at me that it isn't right. It's a clear advantage over the rest of the field. The game play is to get unsuspecting people to download a script thinking it does one thing while in the background does another (pull Elimination chat logs). So I talk to Lilly, who thinks similarly and messages IceBlueFire. These are her screenshots:


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And on that note, I figured it was in Torn's best interest to do as said and take it to the forums. Do you find it acceptable for any Elimination team to take certain steps like these to help win?
Beerstein [1322136]
I'd be more concerned about how easily people are able to just pull chat logs from chat boxes like that.

IDK much about the details but - Your API key has been reset! I have no scripts installed for Torn, that should handle my end since I can't trust admins. No more Tornstats for my factions.
Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor
Haha, wow that is dodgy as hell. I get that it's negligence on the downloading-users part but it's affecting 1k+ non-negligent people in a competition at that.
Beerstein [1322136]
Lol, wait til they start pulling a Committee members info off the Committee forum. But heyo, it's fine, they deserve it eh? #shouldn'thaveinstalledthatscript
TheLuvlillypink [1914803]
It’s sad how Bogie has allowed this to happen, It’s clearly cheating. I know a script is being used, but if this was done by a Relentless member, they would have been fedded right away.

The game rules are only applied on “certain” people. I understand it’s a competition, but how is this fair to the other 11k+ people playing? Just makes me wonder if there is a script that allows you to pull faction chats as well.
As of this moment, I don’t think anyone knows the rules clearly or to which extent they actually go because it seems to be changing for everyone?

Anyways, I know nothing will be done but it’s really just disappointing.
Lelouch [1865755]
lol as a KW i can say for certain that we don't have it. if we do, we wouldn't be so low on tickets
you should probably suspect LJ and FM
Beerstein [1322136]
I don't know much, but this is 100% an issue on Torn end, not Discords. Makes me think Torn should have officially allowed and vetted ones only, the rest can be at your own risk.
SoloWarrior [463005]
So basically it can be comparable to a computer virus? You install software and unknowingly get a virus installed in the background that pulls your info..

Isn't it a crime to do that?
Roxy [2308983]
Of course someone who knows their way around a script can vet it before implementing it, how are those who have no clue about scripts supposed to know? Or check or have any idea how to vet scripts
Owen [2087327]
Technically.

Even actual cheating websites ban contributions from having external connections within their program, torn should do the same with userscripts posted to the tools & userscripts forum
Legaci [2100546]
Not only that, if they went on the basis they shouldnt install if they dont know what it is beside's the description!
Then they are yet disadvantaged!

So, sorry for a 0 experience coder, in torn its a lose, lose for you!