JFK puts a muzzle on its rabid dog?

I mean let's be honest here.

If JFK had taken CR's side (like they should have done) when Karalynn decided to try and break CR's chain, then Longbow decided to flame Mike over his Dad's passing, then Insurgency would never have happened, JFK would still be top dog and BRUTAL_THUG would probably be in TRT right now.

Hindsight is a funny thing.

It's a good thing that Insurgency happened because game needed a change and wanted a change (as shown by the participation on R1 side).

And on a personal level, it's always good to find out who your real friends are, who will be there for you in times of need and who will turn their backs or worse act against you. For that, me personally and JFK as a whole, the entire experience was extremely worth it.

I can't tell if that's a dig at me but I've always been quite upfront with you about my feelings towards certain players within your Faction. Even stemming back to the Insurgency war itself, when Karalynn refused me Booster access, because 'I wasn't a JFK member,' when we were all supposed to be acting on the same side.

Karalynn: Everyone has booster access
Livingdedgirl: ok
Accumulated: except for Nova
HairyHarry: Shibby got me
Livingdedgirl: Cirice is about 8b can we tagteam?
Karalynn: Nova is not a JFK member
Accumulated: yes
Nova: TUN 4 LIFE
Karalynn: not sure how he got in here :)
Accumulated: LDG, Shibby?
Nova: lol
Livingdedgirl: yes
Nova: cause you were losing and we're allies
Nova: and I'm nice enough to help
Cuffs: lol
Cuffs: what a nice guy
Nova: Why does it matter? I thought we were all in this together?

No one has turned their back on JFK, they just lost patience with toxic leaders like Karalynn & Longbow, which for some reason have your unwavering support, to the extent you pushed away CR, ultimately losing the Insurgency war.

Furthermore, the recent influx of toxic recruits such as BRUTAL_THUG is the reason long-standing members such as Azrael have left and allies of JFK have started to have second thoughts. Again a message I have continually tried to get through to you. I have always been completely straight up with my opinions and tried to give you this advice in private out of the respect I have for you personally.

Azrael gave his reasons, pretty contradicting reasons at that, brutal easnt even here when Azrael left.
He thought someone was cheating but didn't have proof so he went to a faction that has cheaters in it with proof of it happening? Cant even use the XIII example as he was at NS st the time.

Didn't like certain members running there mouths when all the top factions have a few people who are the exact same

I can't even be bothered to argue with you about this anymore. I've known you a long time, we've fought together and fought against each other, I've always had respect for you, but it is beyond me how you can possibly agree with how this 'new JFK' operate.

As someone who really gives no shits about drama, I think it's fair to say this thread has become somewhat derailed. Seems like half the players in this game need restraining orders at this point.

Na don't want to argue either man, well leave it at that

Bullzeye, do the f**king math, of course he was in main when i was there, look at our time in our factions,

I wont be the first to leave and defo wont be the last, LDG also left for similar reasons, she had problems with the same people i did.

It obviously caused a stink coz i came to SA, well im gonna tell you now, MK poached me, i did not seek to come here.

Yes all factions have their Bellends, its just wether they are your kind of bellend.....

Oh PS, SA stop filling the wall, im fed up of Pm'ing you all when i see you :)

Az..

I believe you're wrong. Who else have I said that to?

Also, who taught you to spell and form proper sentences and paragraphs? Did you sell your account? Cause the old, abusive Saltyfury I declared eternal vengeance on certainly didn't know how to write properly.

Sigh.... Cindy, Cindy, Cindy

The "scamming you" thing got put to bed like a year ago, but naturally, you forgot , just like ya ALWAYS forgot how much I owed you as I was paying you off, and you forgot when the debt was settled. Fortunately, when I payed you off, i told my people, and I think even pasted the last payment, so the people that really matter know this is just pure malarkey. If there was ANY doubt in my mind, id gladly just buy some DPs and pay ya off just to take away your excuse for acting so terribly to me, but there isnt, and im not going to financially reward you for either flat out lying or just being a very forgetful person. I already paid you once, and ya dont get to fabricate that I didnt and make me do it again. I give away billions to strangers in The Duckpond, calling me greedy or implying that I wouldnt pay you off if I owed you a penny is ridiculous.

I've never scammed a nickel in this game in 5 years of playing, and if we could get staff to dig back and look at all the money ive sent you and add it up, youd realize we are square, we have been square , and MAYBE you'd stop saying ya never got paid.

I understand making up a scam to be mad about, in your mind, justifies you being so damn angry at the simple fact that we RIGHTFULLY "switched teams" after Z turned his back on us, and YOU PERSONALLY threatened us.

We had more than ample reason to leave JFKs side, you guys did it to yourself, and nobody cared about that , at all, until we helped form Insurgency, and even then, I would bet my account that if we lost the war, you wouldnt be here insisting ya never got paid for something that you clearly did. CR was out of the JFK fam for over a year and not one word of me owing you a penny was ever mentioned, because ya knew you got paid, but ya lose the war and now all the sudden, I owe you money?? Nahhh...

The salt is real, and your actions are transparent.

After seeing what a debacle this thread had become, I was really set on bowing out of it and not posting again, but every 6-8 months, when you got nuthin else, you come with this "scam" garbage, and I have no choice but to come back and defend myself. If you continue, I guess I'll just make up a scam that you did on me and plaster it all over the forums and try to see if I can get anyone to buy it ... Then we would be even.

I know youre mad that you put so much into us and we ended up switching sides on you.. I get it, but where were you when Kara tried to break our chain and JFK said "tough shit"? Where were you when Z refused to pull his head out of the sand and give ANY type of effort into retaining us on The JFK team? And why, oh why, did you feel the need to tell me "If you guys move on 2.1, JFK main moves on you"? JFK not only turned their backs on us, but then threatened us when we were going to get payback on our own... Anyone would have left you guys.. I spent 3 years looking up to and proudly reppin the JFK team, ya think I just woke up one morning and said "ahh, screw JFK, lets just flush 3 years down the toilet and be on our own "?? Cmon now ...

Fact is, from Kara, to Z, to YOU... if you guys would take ANY sort of accountability for our treatment and subsequent departure, there wouldnt be any beef between any of us. You guys deserved to lose us, and JFK didnt give a crap that we left until we came looking for payback and got it.

It wouldnt kill you guys, to be a little more fair-minded and just say "well, we did shit on them, i dont blame them for swappin sides" and let that be the end of it. We swapped teams in a GAME, you guys did much worse to us, and we dont hate you.... again... accountability.

I agree with you though, I also think SOME PEOPLE really do need to take a step back from the game and look at their own behavior. Truly hating someone simply because they went to play for another team is not logical or rational behavior at all. Even if ya do make up a "scam" to try and make it look justified.

My bad your right you both could have been at the same time, on mobile and got the days wrong at first.
And we know mk poached u, as he tried the same with several other members

Just stop with your dumb propaganda.

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Yikes ^^^^^ someones still salty. Let me just point out since you probably forgot what actually happened.

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Also forgot all your revive factions, but yeah.

I hope nobody is talking shit about karalynn or I might have to go HULK mode

I know, we're horrible people who:

1) Bought your faction
2) Provided your members with PI's, advice and support
3) Gave you our cash to replace the faction cash a member scammed from your vault (or was this in JFB?)
4) When your members got mugged for large amounts used our influence to get the muggers to give cash back
5) Bought your sub faction
6) Provided members of your sub faction with PI's, advice and support
7) Asked you not to retaliate on hits made by JFK 2.1 which we addressed to stop

Absolutely horrible people.

If someone did that to me or my faction, I would totally have separated from them, then plot and enact a revenge how to get them back for all the nasty things they've done to me. Enjoy what you did Mike, I can only hope that Karma does what it does best and that sometime in your life, you experience the same thing what you did to us being done to you.

I never said you were horrible people, I just said that we were in the right by leaving you.

And karma HAS done to me exactly what I did to you ... My mom beat the crap outta me in Scrabble last night ...

Sucks, because Ive been pretty damn good to her, but ima try to shake it off and remind myself that someone beating you in a game isnt really a reason to hate them .....

Just another reminder that brutal dumbass told me to kill myself, in case anyone forgot

Which do you think bothers me the most, a friend stabbing me in the back or the money?


It’s a very small price to pay to figure out if I could trust you.

You can sit there and play the good guy card, but at the end of the day I am some one who has nearly stopped playing, I don’t personally train my stats no longer, I have around 250bill spread around torn in my own pockets and others, I have given away countless of billions away in old irc give away channels, I have supported countless of players with rent to own PI plans (which I lost a fair amount on) so please don’t even try it Mike I have no use for torn cash these days.

I told you personally! ALL PAYMENTS should be paid through the faction forum to avoid any discrepancies in the future (just like all the rent to own PI plan payments)

My issue has always been with YOU! MIKE, I still have all the love in the world for all the old CR members, you guys and girls always wanted to spread your own wings and become your own thing and till this day I am still incredibly proud seeing all those young little hungry guys and girls turn in to completely scary beasts of torn regardless if faction wise are friend or foe.

Have a lovely day Mike :) hopefully one days you will be grown up enough to accept your wrong doings.

I remember when you were my mommy back when I was in JFB. So glad you can be my mommy again. I shelter beneath your wings in this scary scary world.

<3 Cindy

MeanMike completely embarrassing himself and his faction in this thread