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IS IT REAL?!?! all the bums get protection now???
Ched has listened to the masses?!? Rip pops
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IS IT REAL?!?! all the bums get protection now???
Ched has listened to the masses?!? Rip pops
Flight changes.....ITS REAL?!?
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Changes to the flight system in this way were being discussed prior to the threads in GD being made, today being the first day of patches since the posts though is the first chance we've had to put changes discussed … - hemi [2165616]
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Sucks for all u script monkeys LoL gg ched - Chedburn [1] Admin
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I'm clearly having trouble with communication as after posting many times across many threads, there's still many people who simply don't understand the actual issue, jumping to conclusions. Several GD threads I've seen seem to suggest what some people think …
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Since this **** above me stole my picture, here's one with the timer. I think it starts at 15 seconds. [image: media.discordapp.net]
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Ched: "I want the game to make people angry and tougher on players , I don't care if people unsub"
Also Ched: "People unsubbed? Change it ASAP
Personally I don't mind this change though :p abs nerf to muggin but yer, will survive
His contradicting statement for reference..
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Also Ched: "People unsubbed? Change it ASAP
Personally I don't mind this change though :p abs nerf to muggin but yer, will survive
His contradicting statement for reference..
[image: i.imgur.com]
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Obviously i'm super biased but this is a f**king joke lmao.
I don't understand - this makes it easier for people to mug incoming players. Why do you think it is a joke? Unless it is because there's more competition for mugs now because any plebe can camp a profile.
EDIT: i misunderstood the change. I think this is a stop-gap measure that creates more harm than good. I'm an advocate for a level playing field, but also for more opportunity to mug careless players. This solution accomplished neither.
EDIT: i misunderstood the change. I think this is a stop-gap measure that creates more harm than good. I'm an advocate for a level playing field, but also for more opportunity to mug careless players. This solution accomplished neither.
15 secs added. Now everyone can fly to caymans safely.
Although this change doesnt affect me because i dont fly to caymans to store cash. But I think it seems like a reasonable grace period.
Although this change doesnt affect me because i dont fly to caymans to store cash. But I think it seems like a reasonable grace period.
I don’t fly mug or mug very much at all but it does seem very contradicting to what Ched has been saying the last day or so. I don’t want to protect people’s money...but now I am. Makes it hard to adapt. But at least I can fly with my bazaar open now. Thanks, Ched.
What scrub isn't going to have deposited after a 15 second grace period? You will be mugging for zero unless they are stupidly slow or offline
Crime city game becomes safe...
what happens on the way back? do you have 15 seconds to bank? or is it just for atkers
Sucks for all u script monkeys LoL gg ched
Everyone gets safety now which is a joke. 15s is enough time to fly with your bazaar open, sell all your shit, quick turnaround in China & fly home with enough time to bank safely when you're home. Same for caymans etc.
lol And people are already complaining about it. Ched is damned either way.
15 seconds? That's cute.
The pings on mobile and via TornTools/DocN are delayed by 30s lmao
The pings on mobile and via TornTools/DocN are delayed by 30s lmao
Changes to the flight system in this way were being discussed prior to the threads in GD being made, today being the first day of patches since the posts though is the first chance we've had to put changes discussed into place.
Committee have been discussing this and weighing up numerous options, I won't repeat much of what's already been said by Ched on the API, but delaying it as many suggested wouldn't really achieve much for reasons already explained.
The system in place currently is intended to try and work as a best of both world scenario, we don't want to completely nerf mugging but at the same time, as committee repeatedly pointed out too, people being mugged at the same time they landed before even having a chance to react needed some balancing.
This system adds a delay of 15 seconds upon landing and applies to both the attacker and attackee - so they won't be able to make attacks in this window either - a player who is keen and active should be able to use this time to act in their best interests - however if you're asleep at the wheel then don't be surprised if a mugger does manage to snipe you.
Numerous times were discussed, ranging from 5 seconds up to a full minute. Personally speaking 5 seconds was my initial ideal timeframe, but after many valid points raised we felt (and I agreed based on this feedback) that was slightly too short, especially when taking into consideration mobile users and those on slower internet connections across the world. 60 seconds we felt was far too long and overpowered, and would basically ruin the risk, and also potentially adversely affect wars when people travel to attack others in that way - so 15 seconds was the happy medium that was settled on, however over the next week or several weeks this can be reviewed further.
Thank you everyone who helped provide constructive feedback on this topic.
Committee have been discussing this and weighing up numerous options, I won't repeat much of what's already been said by Ched on the API, but delaying it as many suggested wouldn't really achieve much for reasons already explained.
The system in place currently is intended to try and work as a best of both world scenario, we don't want to completely nerf mugging but at the same time, as committee repeatedly pointed out too, people being mugged at the same time they landed before even having a chance to react needed some balancing.
This system adds a delay of 15 seconds upon landing and applies to both the attacker and attackee - so they won't be able to make attacks in this window either - a player who is keen and active should be able to use this time to act in their best interests - however if you're asleep at the wheel then don't be surprised if a mugger does manage to snipe you.
Numerous times were discussed, ranging from 5 seconds up to a full minute. Personally speaking 5 seconds was my initial ideal timeframe, but after many valid points raised we felt (and I agreed based on this feedback) that was slightly too short, especially when taking into consideration mobile users and those on slower internet connections across the world. 60 seconds we felt was far too long and overpowered, and would basically ruin the risk, and also potentially adversely affect wars when people travel to attack others in that way - so 15 seconds was the happy medium that was settled on, however over the next week or several weeks this can be reviewed further.
Thank you everyone who helped provide constructive feedback on this topic.
If it was like 3 seconds I might be able to call it reasonable. 15 seconds is an eternity. If my PC was off. I could probably land, turn it on and still deposit in time.
Timer is 15 seconds upon landing. It’s in the Patch Notes.
RIP script muggers. At least something has been done to quell the cheating. Wonder if some form of retrospective action/compensation might be in the pipeline given the general community response to this.
A very easy solution implemented that didn’t need to wait until today.
Regardless, good work devs - better late than never.
RIP script muggers. At least something has been done to quell the cheating. Wonder if some form of retrospective action/compensation might be in the pipeline given the general community response to this.
A very easy solution implemented that didn’t need to wait until today.
Regardless, good work devs - better late than never.
I think it’s a good change as it helps to level the playing field for people landing with cash (where previously it was impossible to avoid the mugs), but maybe 15 seconds is slightly too long, 10s may be better for balance between muggers/people landing with cash?
15 seconds is absolutely insane! If you're not using scripts then mugging is hard work; you could bank your cash and make a cuppa tea before a mugger gets a chance at you now. Holy crap.
How the f**k is this safety for everyone? You're still going to be able to mug the idiots who aren't around when they land. This just allows the people who are around to actually have a chance to deposit their money before they are hit.
It's ridiculous that you can be sat on someone's profile and be attacking them before the page even refreshes, bunch of salty nerds because something was put in place to balance the playing field.
I think a better fit would have been to increase the cost of the TN perk people have been using but even that would upset people. Maybe don't abuse a system and it won't be changed in a way that doesn't give you an advantage.
It's ridiculous that you can be sat on someone's profile and be attacking them before the page even refreshes, bunch of salty nerds because something was put in place to balance the playing field.
I think a better fit would have been to increase the cost of the TN perk people have been using but even that would upset people. Maybe don't abuse a system and it won't be changed in a way that doesn't give you an advantage.