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Flight changes.....ITS REAL?!?

Started by takashi [2491991] on in General Discussion.

331 replies · 7.36k views · thread synced · 10 days ago · View on torn.com

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Deadpool [1879348]
theres always that possibility they miss the landing and end up running that 15 second clock out, its happened to me multiple times.

Just gotta get lucky kid.
Spliffy [315389]
I am salty yeah, you've got a valid point there, but this seems like a hell of a knee-jerk reaction.

Is there going to be a 15 second window when people are leaving hospital when they can't be attacked too? Seeing as faction deposits got nerfed from hosp it's only fair... right?
arrow [2024586]
selective reading at its finest smh

all the cayman muggers liking this, wanted to confirm I wasn’t @‘ing bogie, it was aimed at you lot lol
Legion [2190940]
So 15 seconds delay plus anyone outside the UK has trash load times on attack screens. Sounds more like cheds more against mugging than for it. Enjoy safe torn the death of travel buy mugs
Spliffy [315389]
Players shouldn't ever have that level of protection like they did. I'm never going to support that level of safety, in fact it's very likely I'm going to be going in the opposite direction more and more in the coming years.

Ched wants less protection.

Ched gives extra protection.

How is that not a contradiction?
gnorf [2411019]
Just disallow money spies while flying its really not that hard. What a terrible change. So much for ched's rant about not going full carebear
Chedburn [1] Admin Developer
I'm clearly having trouble with communication as after posting many times across many threads, there's still many people who simply don't understand the actual issue, jumping to conclusions. Several GD threads I've seen seem to suggest what some people think is blown way out of proportion - as if cheaters are actually using bots to automatically mug people. When really it's just a very simple stalking script utilising the API, a similar script can be utilized client-side without using the API on the Cayman Islands 'People' page, and bots illegally farming the data from profiles will always be possible if we don't offer more convenient methods.

My comments have been only directed towards suggestions that the API should be disabled / removed / nerfed, which as I've explained in detail would just make everything far worse for everyone. Or the suggestion that all players destinations should be hidden like the Theatre special.

This particular update that we released today has been in discussion & planning since before all the GD threads. As I said, the situation did require balancing, and I feel this helps to balance things.
ita [2523178]
15s sounds too long and i speak as someone who cant reliably use flash grenade due to the lag ive been getting in this game lol


Stonks are a gamble and mugging nerfed now too xd
FidelCashflow [1993550]
I'm coming at it from the standpoint of hosping ppl overseas. It's not easy work, but it's good trolling. I've done hardly any Caymans mugs.
-BC-punkrock [721153]
I don't believe people are specifically mad about it the way you put it... It's the flipflopping around, one minute "f**k you guys this is the game I'm making it more hardcore and you can suck on my nuts if you don't like it", then the next minute "oh yah, and we've added 15 second grace period"

It's the zero communication in-between that the dev team and leadership need to work on. Changes happen without even a hint of what's to come.
Hawk [2080065]
Is it about making it "safe" or "fair"?

Unfair (the reasons for the change?)
- landers have to captcha, muggers don't
- UK users have quicker response times than other parts of the world
- I personally don't think scripts have a darn thing to do with it, but that's been in the discussion a lot


I hate changes that remove the risk in Torn, but I think this one about about fairness, not safety.

I'm not sure about the time being 15 seconds...
Mr_Red [1693261]
Wow, lot of pissed off level 100 players. Guess we know who was using the scripts now lmao

Honestly, this seems like a good change at first glance, gives somebody travelling back a chance to be able to deposit their cash assuming they're sitting there ready the second they arrive back plus a little for page load times. I can see why some are angry as they can no longer guarantee they'll get a mug every single time by killing somebody before they've even got out of the plane but really this seems like a much better balance.

There should never be a time when it is impossible to be safe, being safe should be based on quick timing. Which this change lends itself to
Ridgeback [2015242]
You need to kill the stalking scripts as well. If the traveler has to be johnny-on-the-spot in a manual, non-scripted manner to put away funds then the would-be attacker should have to play the game manually as well.