Stacking Bonuses

So the wiki lists some bonuses that can't be stacked, and I noticed Wither wasn't on it.

Add in that I happened to get 2 wither weapons, secondary and melee, and now I'm VERY curious how debuff bonuses like it stack. This gives me 3 questions. I have 2 weapons that can do 3 25% debuffs, can I get 6 total stacks on the enemy?

Also is it additive or multiplicative? Multiplicative would end up with the enemy having 17.8% of their total str, additive would mean -50%.

If it's additive, does it bottom out with 0 str or does it actually have effective -50%? I don't think this would have any effect with Wither but reducing their Def, for example Weaken or Penetrate, would it give you an effective 50% bonus to strength for that hit, making you deal extra damage?

since no one posted yet, i'll give you my answer although i'm not 100% sure that i know everything about the mechanic.

the maximum stack on a player is 3. the total debuff would be -75% because it is additive, which means the stat is effectively reduced by 75%, so if you have a Weaken weapon you will deal extra damage *after* you apply the debuff.
Penetrate is another thing and while it does increase the damage (but only when you hit a part covered by armor) it doesn't change anyone's stats.

hope that was useful and if someone smarter notices a mistake please correct me.

Is it really? I hadn't checked and assumed it was multiplicstive so no matter how many stack, it can't drop someone to zero or negative.

again, i'm not 100% sure, but this is my understanding.

i just searched for some more info in the wiki and i found this: https://wiki.torn.com/wiki/Status_Effect

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so at least the stack limit seems confirmed.

Most of the wiki data on ranked war bonuses are slightly inaccurate/missing some info, especially the parts about what weapon types bonuses can spawn on.
Wither works the same way as slow, weaken and cripple. They can be stacked a maximum of 3 stacks each regardless of how many weapons you have that have the bonus, and each reduces the corresponding stat by -25% additively. Bonuses that debuff different stats can be stacked with each other.
I'm pretty sure that it can zero someone's stats, but it would need them to be on at most -25% passives since it's capped at -75%.
None of those bonuses affect your own stats, they just affect the enemy's. -50% opponent def with no change to your strength isn't exactly +50% strength, as shown here:
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Okay so having both a Wither Primary and Wither Melee is pointless

thanks!

100% correct, though I won't call myself smarter lol

it can still be 100% or at least, 99.999...% due to other debuffs like kumo said, or rad poisoning too iirc