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  • angrysc0tsman12 [1099272] · 4 likes ·
    Just want to point out that General Flynn was a decorated officer and look how he turned out. I don't doubt aliens exist based on the size of the universe. However I guarantee everything "we have confirmed" is bullshit.
  • ValentineBane [1810481] · 3 likes ·
    Why the hell we have an iss but no moon base?
  • ElHeffe [2564022] · 1 likes ·
    How nice of the aliens to buzz America only.
Bhappychap [2270497] · #1 · edited
A 2 hour video of 3 decorated officers (1 Naval Commander), from a bipartisan congressional committee (sorry for the "GOP" link, but it is from a live stream, and unedited, from the congressional source). Skip to the 42:00 minute mark to skip the congress BS.

YouTube video KQ7Dw-739VY



Here is the news article referenced from one of the whistle blower Mr Grush:

https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/we-are-not-alone-the-ufo-whistleblower-speaks/


Things we have confirmed:
  • Aliens exist
  • We have interacted with them
  • We have images of their craft, their bodies, and have actual parts from crafts
  • humans have been hurt from researching their crashed craft
  • Humans may have engaged with them in a hostile manner
  • DOD has technology invented from research of these craft
  • all 3 people, along with several others have been bullied from DoD/NSA/contractors
  • there have been incidents with commercial pilots, earliest noted being in the 90s with a "tic tac" shaped craft that matches the 2003 incident.
  • They have something in the Pacific ocean (supposedly can move)
  • Several corroborating independent incidents of a cube with a "field" surrounding it. One was at the entry of a naval base doing TS exercises.
  • Advanced jamming technology
  • Advanced physics for flight, as well as cloaking, sound, and aerodynamic challenging design
angrysc0tsman12 [1099272] · #2
Just want to point out that General Flynn was a decorated officer and look how he turned out. I don't doubt aliens exist based on the size of the universe. However I guarantee everything "we have confirmed" is bullshit.
Bhappychap [2270497] · #6
This isn't just one though, and served under different areas independently.

Snowdens info was real, as with several other whistleblowers that had some status.

But this would be a first for not 1, but 2 highly decorated officers, and 1 servicemen to corroborate different aspects of things or events, from both internal and external sources, with backed up documented evidence.

Though it'll be interesting what gets leaked from any closed door sessions that will now be bound to happen.
m00nman [2714008] · #8
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
LMAO even!!
Bhappy finally goes full conspiracy theorist and I can't even discuss with him bc it's the most ridiculous one out there.
Bhappychap [2270497] · #11
I do think its an interesting subject to talk about. Are these people lying? are the rest? are their claims only partially fabricated? The is world changing news, why are they talking about it like its a tuesday?


But yes, sometimes my sarcasm is taken very seriously sometimes, was kind of hoping the Aliens thing would give it away. Almost snuck in the some lines from the actual Alien movie, but thought it be to on the nose.
Bhappychap [2270497] · #12
I was only on 2 Carriers for short stints to help with some aircraft training way way back in the 80s. And mirage stuff was so cool to see.


to play devils advocate though, it wasn't just witnessed, but caught on several scanners from different ships, with different technologies. And people aboard each of those ships have verified those claims, with video/radar technical data to back it up (again, what they claim)

And how about the bodies? Crash site caught on satellite?


Or my favorite one: The "preponderance" of if an alien had X technology.
angrysc0tsman12 [1099272] · #13
Your sensors can lie to you though. Not intentionally or by design; rather they are imperfect systems that can pick up clutter and spit out bad tracks. As you well know, radar isn't anything like it is portrayed in movies and TV. Depending on the atmospherics that day, the antenna gain, and your system sensitivity, you can see a bunch of things that just aren't there. Moreover, witness testimony isn't always reliable. There is "witness testimony" that bombs went off on 9/11 and that was what brought down the WTC. None of that is true, but that didn't stop truthers from using that initial reporting information and portray it as fact.

What bodies or crash site on satellite? Nothing in that video shows any of that.
Sannemander [2088627] · #14
Well, I'm pretty sure life forms exist in other places, after all the space is infinite. I read one day that the chance of a person doing the same thing as me it the same time time is at 100 percent, also everything in between, because in infinity the chances will always be at 100 percent.
H4D35 [1487001] · #18 · edited

Pentagon whistleblower David Grusch, in some more baffling claims, said that the Vatican was fully aware of non-human intelligence's existence and that it assisted the United States in retrieving a UFO, which was downed and was in possession of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini when the Second World War was at its end.


36-year-old Grusch has served in the Air Force for 14 years and is a decorated Afghanistan combat officer who had earlier worked with the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA).


His role is to work as the representative of NRO when dealing with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.

The task force was established specifically to investigate the UFOs.


First-ever UFO crash



Making some shocking revelations, Grusch stated that a top-secret UFO retrieval programme was run by the United States for decades and added that the 'Vatican was involved' in the first-ever crash of a UFO, as per media reports.


Grusch stated that the UFO's first recovery took place in Magenta, Italy in 1933.

He added that the UFO was in possession of Italian dictator Mussolini's government until 1944-1945 when America was tipped off about it by Pope Pius XII.


He added that the UFO was partially intact and was kept at a secure airbase until it was retrieved by the US after the fascist Italian regime's collapse.


"1933 was the first recovery in Europe, in Magenta, Italy.

They recovered a partially intact vehicle, and the Italian government moved it to a secure airbase in Italy until around 1944-1945.

The Pope back-channelled that, and told the Americans what the Italians had and we ended up scooping it," Grusch said.


While clarifying whether the Catholic Church knew about the 'non-human' existence on earth, Grusch said, "Certainly".

He said that his claims must be believed because "I have the credentials, and I was an intelligence officer."


He stated that UFO sightings were widely known during Mussolini's dictatorship in Italy.



Aliens on earth, have killed humans, says whistleblower



He added that the 'non-human' intelligence present on earth has acted with malevolence and even killed some humans.


"I think the logical fallacy there is because they're advanced, they're kind.

We'll never really understand their full intent and that's because we're not them.

But I think what appears to be malevolent activity has happened.

That's based on nuclear site probing activities and witness testimony.

I was briefed by a few individuals on the programme that there were malevolent events like that," he said while answering if aliens have killed humans.


"At the very least, I saw substantive evidence that white-collar crime was committed...unfortunately.

I've heard some really un-American things I don't want to repeat right now.

There is a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the US populace which is extremely unethical and immoral.

We are most definitely not alone," he added.

Die Glocke (German: [di? ??l?k?], "The Bell") was a purported top-secret scientific technological device, secret weapon, or Wunderwaffe developed in the 1940s in Nazi Germany.

First described by Polish journalist and author Igor Witkowski. in Prawda o Wunderwaffe (2000), it was later popularized by military journalist and author Nick Cook, who associated it with Nazi occultism, antigravity, and free energy suppression research.

Mainstream reviewers have criticized claims about Die Glocke as being pseudoscientific, recycled rumors, and a hoax.

Die Glocke and other alleged Nazi "miracle weapons" have been dramatized in video games, television shows, and novels.

History


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Polish author Igor Witkowski.

In his 2001 book The Hunt for Zero Point, author Nick Cook identified claims about Die Glocke as having originated in the 2000 Polish book Prawda o Wunderwaffe ("The Truth About The Wonder Weapon") by Igor Witkowski.

Cook described Witkowski's claims of a device called "The Bell" engineered by Nazi scientists that was "a glowing, rotating contraption" rumored to have "some kind of antigravitational effect", be a "time machine", or part of an "SS antigravity program" for a flying saucer.[1]


According to Cook, Die Glocke was bell-shaped, about 12 feet (3.7 m) high and 9 feet (2.7 m) in diameter, and incorporated "two high-speed, counter-rotating cylinders filled with a purplish, liquid metallic-looking substance that was supposed to be highly radioactive, code-named 'Xerum 525.'"

Cook recounts claims that "scientists and technicians who worked on the bell and who did not die of its effects were wiped out by the SS at the close of the war, and the device was moved to an unknown location".[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke_(conspiracy_theory)[1]

 Witkowski suggested that a concrete ring called "The Henge" near the Wenceslaus mine built in 1943 or 1944 and vaguely resembling Stonehenge was used to tether the Bell during tests.

According to writer Jason Colavito, the structure is merely the remains of an ordinary industrial cooling tower.[3]

Over the years all kinds of information and conspiracies have shown that the Nazis were into some really trippy stuff when not actively busy being genocidal maniacs.

The Thule Society was dedicated to higher mysteries and researching the occult. There was even an alleged "Wunderwaffe" program to create a super weapon.

Well among those programs was an alleged wonderweapon program popularized on the History channel called "Die Glocke" or The Bell.

Allegedly the Thule Society had successfully contacted or discovered the existence of non-human intelligence and reverse engineered their tech to make a bell-shaped UFO.

Fast forward to the Grusch testimony and the high ranking people who have come forward behind closed doors to back up his claims.

Apparently a lot of very credible people believe his documents about a UFO crash in Italy in 1933 to be totally authentic.

The documents apparently contain evidence that the Italian gov't was letting Nazi scientists experiment on it for years before the US got wind from his holiness the Pope himself.

If this is the case perhaps "Die Glocke" wasn't such a crazy conspiracy after all.

In fact, it seems more likely than not due to the vast amount of evidence that we have been studying UAP for 90 years.

Whether Germany managed to contact aliens or demons or goblins is still anybody's guess, but it seems to me the Bell probably did exist in some form or another and that tech has been superbly hidden this whole time.

Admiral Byrd might have been among the first to engage the german bells if some of the whackier conspiracies are to be believed.

It would also make the formation of UAP seen in DC in the 50s make sense.

Nazis are nothing if not vain and that sighting had vanity written all over it.

In my opinion cold, uncaring, vastly superior NHI's wouldn't care about flexing their toys to the Americans by buzzing the white house.

Very interesting times we are living in.

Would love to hear what others think.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/14miwmc/die_glocke_may_have_been_real_after_all/

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Cook proposed that SS official Hans Kammler later secretly traded this technology to the U.S. military in exchange for his freedom.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip