aren't all bugs system bugs anyway?
NPC Life Bug
Started by Hemigidius [2157705] on in Bugs & Issues.
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Abuse early, abuse offten, copy that.
Based on the comments, I am happy to refer this to Joshua to decide if we need to make further changes. I made the decision based on the fact that these were literally a Level 1 loots being awarded once every 2 hours or so and assumed the community would be happier to let their energy not have been for nothing.
Probably should have been reverted but man, you guys go waaay to hard way too early on what was clearly a gesture of goodwill.
I mean they won't be happy to lose loot sure, but we're thinking from a "fairness" standpoint. Thanks for moving this up the ladder!
Is it fair, or just jealousy? because I'm very envious of the ones who got loot lol
This has nothing to do with jealousy, I don't even sell anything i loot, i give it away. Read my previous comments on page 1 to understand my reasoning.
Hi, CJ had understandably been trying to give me a bit of a break but I am back now and will make the final call on this case.
Yes, it should not have been permitted. Whilst it is a bug, and whilst its extremely minor, I don't think this particular instance would be fair to leave as it is. Whilst we are happy to do gestures of good will for certain things previously, and no doubt will have cases where that's relevant in the future too, I don't feel we can do that in this instance.
My reasoning here being that if we do allow this then it A. Undermines the staff's already correct comments that this should be avoided as potential bug abuse and B. Just gives the impression that people can get a free shot at this without consequence.
As a result I will be removing the loot, and won't be restoring any energy expended - you took that chance and got the attack statistics - but again you don't get the energy restored because its otherwise just a free shot at potential bug abuse until we make a judgement call.
Bug abuse is obviously something we take extremely seriously; from time to time, bugs will inevitably appear within the game, and we fully accept and apologise for these unforeseen errors - they are entirely are our fault. Nevertheless, our culpability does not give players an excuse to abuse these errors.
I will be contacting each of the following to remove their gains, thank you CJ for your assistance in getting me that information so quickly.
inflation [1921241]
Feathery Hotel Coupon
Concussion Grenade
Can of Taurine Elite
Nail Bomb
Sand
reperspliter [883698]
Can of Taurine Elite
_GirthQuake_ [889450]
Sand
Nail Bomb
frostedclaws [1446761]
Feathery Hotel Coupon
Concussion Grenade
Da_Piff [878934]
Nail Bomb
MBS [1895784]
Concussion Grenade
prastas [1288184]
Can of Red Cow
Sweatpants
Feathery Hotel Coupon
Nail Bomb
kamas [1009539]
Can of Munster
Concussion Grenade
Feathery Hotel Coupon
Sand
Nail Bomb
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CJ a real one. There was no one right answer, both getting loot taken away or left wasn't a big deal imo.
I think it was a big deal. Why? Those who were attacking were DELIBERATELY abusing the bug which was so obvious it hurt so this is direct violation of the rules and yes, it showed others that it's ok to abuse the bug and keep the gains.
Kudos to bogie for this one and CJ, no offense - it was simply not a good call in the long run but hey, we all have to make judgement calls here or there.
Thanks for making the right call. Especially with the TTT currently running, giving the exploiters those extra competition numbers in the Looting category when they weren't legally obtained would have been especially egregious.