I dunno. I am feeling very cumb-bah-yah with vernunzio's post.
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Well said, Vern.
I think Bogie was badly let down by the company too, fwiw.
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I believe i've managed to make a temporary fix for the fedded player detection script, so we should have a list for today (though it might be incomplete - it should fill out nicely as time goes by though). Stay tuned in about 2 hours (though for now it's mostly a bunch of noobs).
07:11:01 - 21/11/24 bogie deleted your post in Fedded Archives in General Discussion : [post 25377720 deleted]
10:20:25 - 20/11/24 bogie deleted your post in Fedded Archives in General Discussion : [post 25374506 deleted]
What rules did I break that staff deemed it necessary/acceptable to delete my comments?
Staff not liking people talking about their actions,.does not mean they should change/manipulate any actions I take in this game as is intended by the game and within the rules.
I was also on-topic: this is a thread about feddings.
This is not ok.
Also, to all of you moaning about the thread being derailed... how is talking about the feddings in a thread about feddings derailment?
you are right , Klash is the worst, he should stay there. /s
Agreed. Bogie is simply doing his best within the governance model (or lack thereof), setup within the game.
This is why I believe the discipline process needs to be revamped to be a lot more impartial and transparent. It's probably already pretty impartial now, but it's vital that it's obviously and transparently so, if admin wants the community is to respect the decisions made by staff.
The million dollar concern for me is, if these sorts of things are driving Bogie towards a suicide attempt, he should take a step back. Not only for the integrity of the game, but for his own personal wellbeing. This is just a game at the end of the day, not worth losing a life over.
Am I wrong about something or are you saying you're "trying to find out if it was malicious or not" about something that was leaked ages ago?
If you don't have that evidence by now you're either asking for it from them (essentially keeping them fedded until they reveal whatever evidence you're missing, if it exists, which would justify keeping them fedded) then what are you actually looking for?
It seems to me you have all the evidence you guys needed to fed the other 4, what more evidence could you possibly "find"?
Major issue to the masses are that until something major happens to someone prominent AND liked; it's always ignored, sometimes even belittled by staff and more time than not, Bogie himself.
This is another prime example of this, I've had my own harassment reports called "petty"; ironically the guy is been fedded multiple time finally but many issues are treated rudely and ignored and so this reaction should not be surprising at all.
Also, people from all cultures and backgrounds play Torn, some countries DO NOT allow "Pride Flags" anywhere - giving people shit for opting to use a script that follows their culture and/or countries laws so they can play a game, regardless of how you feel, is also bullshit.
It could be worse. A game administrator could publicly reveal how many dog tags you have during a tagging competition in a discussion about ways to improve the tagging competition because they don't like your suggestions.
^is this "harassment" if it happens in real?
Asking for a friend.....
I low-key like North Korea.
But I hate you
For now i will only be vouching for Hemi specifically because her case is different from the others.
My understanding was hemi was fedded only to determine if her sharing info with Herrschmidt was malicious in order to help bogies accusation of blackmail
bogie now says he is only accussing Herrschmidt of blackmail
If I'm wrong about anything here please tell me, I want to be right on this situation and I know I'm not infallible
If I am right, then obviously hemi is not guilty of being culprit of blackmail, according to bogie himself
Therefore hemi should be released immediately
I’ll start this with an apology as things seem to have gotten inflamed while I was sleeping, and I haven’t yet gotten through the last 10 or so pages that occurred overnight for me. But in my own opinion I agree post deletions weren’t the correct course here. Bogie has apologized for that but I see his reasoning - we want to not further misinformation. The court of public opinion is operating on isolated bits of information.
The hard truth is we won’t and can’t share the totality of the evidence that a group of people obtained information they thought was salacious, shared it maliciously on discord, and recently started posting things about it in Torn. Some of that was in private chats which won’t be shared with you as the statements were frankly misogynistic and gross, and doing so furthers the hurt and harassment done.
The synopsis of the case is that a group of 4 people fueled and aggravated the spread of private information with the result that it affected two people greatly. The harassment was fueled by Herr, with him being the one threatening blackmail if anything bad happened to his group. Said blackmail was public release of the information they had in order to “take down” and “torpedo” the people involved.
Folks, this kind of thing can’t be supported. It’s toxic and frankly stomach turning that people can not only take but hang on to gossip information and make locker room jokes with it all the while use it as revenge currency. I mentioned misogyny before, and some of the snide references to the situation over the last couple years has been purely that - demeaning a female staff member by implying she got a position due to sexual favors (exciter words were much more crude). Using private information to let bogie and Julie know subtly that others know in order to freak them out is really rather sick.
As has been said, all were deleted for harassment. Herr took the extra step of intending to use the info to get people fired or inform families about it, and made it known he would do so. Not one person of anyone who read this stuff stood up and said this is wrong. Not one person reported it.
Here’s a little sample from a multi made by one of these 4 people yesterday (name has already been changed because obviously) who posted this in new player’s chat:
Bogie_Suicide: what a crybaby, who tries to kill themselves just because someone made reference to you sexting your co-worker. probably the same kind of person that tries and fails to kill themselves lol
I’ll close with a couple of Herr’s public discord comments since he wants to keep sharing his side of things through others.
MeanSquid, signing off. Apologies for the essay.
Could be argued it's a 'serving suggestion' to assist the local sperm bank?
yea the other two were spreading and was already on thin ice but otherwise you are correct as far as i have seen, i don't know hemi but betraying a friend yeesh
all i want for christmas is the ability to rate more posts, so i can keep giving A_Mean_Person and any Monarch members the -R they deserve
If it was malicious from hemi and if she has a part in it. Im not talking about the harassment and evidences itself etc.
That's good enough for whomever made the new account to stay fedded. Anyone saying otherwise is a f**kwad