Cache Farm Scammers

Hello torn community I recently joined a faction 

https://www.torn.com/factions.php?step=profile&ID=54656&referredFrom=3499888

3 days after I join I just finished faction Crime 3 man prize was $782000 

He payed us 26,000 

Next day war finished 

I done 133 hits 

325 hits total 

250m war fund 

savage420123 [3499888]payed me 20m 

Some suggested it's a cache farm since 9 off there members are offline I just want what I'm owed details on my profile 

What did he promise to pay you?

Otherwise this sounds more just like greedy leaders, not scamming.

It seems your new faction, the faction your warred against are out for your revenge, which is sweet of them.

769,230×133 is 102m which is what u shouldve been paid since they are advertising 90% war payout. Or maybe this is about something else and im just stupid 

Edit: also why would u join a faction like this, leader isnt even a year old. Just join a normal faction 

Normal rates at 90%

Ye were taking them to 0 revenge is sweet shame I have to wait 3 days to get involved 

I like small factions I play a slow game only really play for the wars trying to build up what I lost in casino 🤣

savage420123 [3499888]

Crime Money owed from war 

Cache war prize $250,000,000

Minus 10%

$225,000,000

325 hits total 

$692,307 per Hit 

133 hits Done 

Total Owed 

$92,076,831

Payed $20,000,000

Remaining balance 

$72,076,831

Crime 2 

Oc payment 

$783,000

Minus 10%

$704,700

Divided by 3 

Paid $26,000

Owed $208,900

 That's from my calculations 

Yea either he "miscalculated" or just tried to scam his own members which is what probably happened lol

That's just wrong

I looked through the logs after that and noticed he done it ever since the faction was created 2.5% for crimes 10%for wars  should have looked at it but guy seemed bless at start when he was asking me to join he was rude all throughout the war saying I wasn't doing anything because points weren't going up fast enough to his liking I'll be honest bro I was gaining 2-2.5 respect per hit because off my level I done 133 hits complete nightmare I tell you lol

Lol you went from a completely inactive faction to a faction that refused terms, bragged about how they would go down swinging if it ended up being a bloodbath, then proceeded to complain about the "carnage" that ensued, and accused me and my leader of being multis bc we know how to actually war 😂

maybe they thought 90% war payouts meant faction takes 90% members get 10%

surely not a scam, just a mistake............. right..?

.......right?

You should have been paid 103M if my napkin maths are right, a little less if the faction takes a cut of that 250M but you were 100% scammed. This should be used as a warning to any new player out there, join a proper faction when you're young to build up your stats and knowledge. You can also drop out to smaller levels later on once you get a handle on the game. 

It looks like you've moved into a Faction that's gone to bat for you, so all's well that ends well.

You've learnt a lesson (unfortunately, but early on) and it looks like your old Faction has hit the "Find Out" stage.

Join a real faction..

So many noob traps/cults/cache farms/scammers out there..

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I disagree with what others are saying tbh. OP did 133 hits for 393 respect. Yes it's probably worth more than 20m but at the same time it's clearly showing that he just dumped energy with no concern about who he was hitting. 

Quality over quantity. 

At what point does this level of greed, which can only be accomplished by exploiting the ignorance of their member-base, differentiate from scamming? 

Even paying by respect earned would be $65m.

Faction might be a "scam" but thats a banger comic in their description.