Just to add on to this, the profit per minute for Xanax assuming you sell at 835k, buy in SA and travel with an airstrip is ~$198.5 per item per minute. If you go to https://www.tornstats.com/flowers.php you will see that half the plushies are actually better profit per minute, while also requiring you to carry around far less cash. Putting this out here because a lot of people seem to think flying for xanax is the most profitable when it isn't.
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Well, some of the way the potions and equipment only working on the next cycle didn't seem very intuitive to me. Could have been explained better I guess.
I'd like some sort of incentive/mechanic that makes attacking other players more worthwhile in the early game. For example, if everyone had a base amount of gold regen each round, they wouldn't be forced into building slave mines round 1 and 2. I also think some kind of random event every few cycles would be interesting to make things less repetitive, but balance wise I'm not sure how that would play out.
I think alliances, teams and such should be allowed but all communications should be in the game thread to be fair about it. You shouldn't be able to make deals outside the game or before the game even begins (entering with a team).
Lastly on the previous mentions of post editing, there is some advantage to players who can be online near each cycles reset time, since they can react to what other players have done. Nobody really abused it so far, but it's possible to fake out an action and then edit it to something else right before the next cycle begins. It also means that nobody really wants to kill a player if they don't have to, because, surprise surprise they edit their post and attack their killer 3x before they die. The simplest solution to this would be "closed" turns where we PM the host our moves for each cycle and he publishes it at the fixed time when the cycle rolls over. This would be a lot more work for the host though, and since it hasn't actually been abused it may not be a needed change.
Thanks for hosting B_Cas!
I'd like some sort of incentive/mechanic that makes attacking other players more worthwhile in the early game. For example, if everyone had a base amount of gold regen each round, they wouldn't be forced into building slave mines round 1 and 2. I also think some kind of random event every few cycles would be interesting to make things less repetitive, but balance wise I'm not sure how that would play out.
I think alliances, teams and such should be allowed but all communications should be in the game thread to be fair about it. You shouldn't be able to make deals outside the game or before the game even begins (entering with a team).
Lastly on the previous mentions of post editing, there is some advantage to players who can be online near each cycles reset time, since they can react to what other players have done. Nobody really abused it so far, but it's possible to fake out an action and then edit it to something else right before the next cycle begins. It also means that nobody really wants to kill a player if they don't have to, because, surprise surprise they edit their post and attack their killer 3x before they die. The simplest solution to this would be "closed" turns where we PM the host our moves for each cycle and he publishes it at the fixed time when the cycle rolls over. This would be a lot more work for the host though, and since it hasn't actually been abused it may not be a needed change.
Thanks for hosting B_Cas!
Thats 4 moves
Goose Juice: Made with 100% real goose.
Crocozade: A croc a day keeps the doc at bay!
Damp Valley: Meeting the desires of real gamers since 2004.
Not strictly part of the entry but some context on how I came up with them:
Goose Juice appears loosely based on Moose Juice, which advertises itself as "zero sugar". I decided to go in the opposite direction by advertising what the juice was instead of what it wasn't.
Crocozade appears loosely based on Lucozade, an energy drink whose original slogan was Lucozade aids recovery. I decided to go with the same idea but make the slogan sound snappier.
Damp Valley is not-so-loosely based on Mountain Dew. This one was fairly obvious so I just went for the low-hanging fruit, combined with a homage to Torn's founding year.
Edit: So it's been brought to my attention that crocozade is a play on gatorade. Feelin' pretty dumb right now but I'll just leave the post as it is.
Crocozade: A croc a day keeps the doc at bay!
Damp Valley: Meeting the desires of real gamers since 2004.
Not strictly part of the entry but some context on how I came up with them:
Goose Juice appears loosely based on Moose Juice, which advertises itself as "zero sugar". I decided to go in the opposite direction by advertising what the juice was instead of what it wasn't.
Crocozade appears loosely based on Lucozade, an energy drink whose original slogan was Lucozade aids recovery. I decided to go with the same idea but make the slogan sound snappier.
Damp Valley is not-so-loosely based on Mountain Dew. This one was fairly obvious so I just went for the low-hanging fruit, combined with a homage to Torn's founding year.
Edit: So it's been brought to my attention that crocozade is a play on gatorade. Feelin' pretty dumb right now but I'll just leave the post as it is.
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I'm buying all your Junk items, Meds, Alcohol, Candy, Temps, Flowers, Plushies, Cans, DPs, E-DVDs, FHCs and more! Just chat me or set up a trade. My prices are always changing, but I match or beat other trader’s prices whenever possible. If you want to negotiate a price, chat me before a trade, preferably with some proof that another trader is offering higher. If not, just set up the trade and I'll give you the highest price I can find on a trader's price list. Because my prices are tied to other traders, it is not directly tied to torn's market price and I do not have an auto-updating price list.
If you are a new player I usually offer better prices than any other trader for junk items, beer, lollipops, boxes of chocolate, whether they're in low quantities or in bulk. If you need any advice in general feel free to ask as well!
I am usually open for trades everyday from 0000 - 1500 TCT. If I am shown as offline, just set up the trade or give me a mail and I will respond as soon as I see it. If I am flying, it usually means I am busy irl. I usually only do short flights, just send me a chat, mail or trade and I will get to it as soon as I can. If I am online I'll give you an ETA of when I land and what price I can give
At the moment, my liquid cash usually varies from 100 - 200 million. If you are looking for a trade for more than that I can refer you to a trader I trust with the highest prices for your items.
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I am usually selling bulk junk items, beer, lollipops, lottery vouchers, etc. in my bazaar. If there is something you are looking for in bulk that is not in my bazaar or my bazaar is closed, feel free to chat me.
If you are a new player I usually offer better prices than any other trader for junk items, beer, lollipops, boxes of chocolate, whether they're in low quantities or in bulk. If you need any advice in general feel free to ask as well!
I am usually open for trades everyday from 0000 - 1500 TCT. If I am shown as offline, just set up the trade or give me a mail and I will respond as soon as I see it. If I am flying, it usually means I am busy irl. I usually only do short flights, just send me a chat, mail or trade and I will get to it as soon as I can. If I am online I'll give you an ETA of when I land and what price I can give
At the moment, my liquid cash usually varies from 100 - 200 million. If you are looking for a trade for more than that I can refer you to a trader I trust with the highest prices for your items.
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I am usually selling bulk junk items, beer, lollipops, lottery vouchers, etc. in my bazaar. If there is something you are looking for in bulk that is not in my bazaar or my bazaar is closed, feel free to chat me.
Hope you're at least keeping your stocks
Found a spot
Looking for work in a 10* SS only. No need for pay and trains are negotiable, willing to pay for extra trains. I am daily active and rehab when necessary.
Work stats are:
Work stats are:
Manual labor 2,497Intelligence 5,490Endurance 7,213
Found a spot
Looking to buy trains for medium/long term till I can fast track city jobs. I am daily active + rehab often.
10* Sweet Shop only. PM me to negotiate price.
Current stats:
Manual labor 2,497Intelligence 5,490Endurance 7,213
https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=2&t=16114679&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=19596996
Looks like its pretty clearly not allowed. Although personally I don't see how it's breaking their rules if its 2 different people on 2 different accounts, but hey it's their rules.
Looks like its pretty clearly not allowed. Although personally I don't see how it's breaking their rules if its 2 different people on 2 different accounts, but hey it's their rules.
They could just have a poll in each team forum letting people vote for their team name after everyone is randomly assigned to a team. This would mean (1) even distribution of players across teams; (2) groups of players can't deliberately get into the same team and; (3) dunmugmeh would be in team field mouse
If the only punishment is to reverse gains, there would be no deterrence effect to stop people doing something like this again. If they just get caught -> only their gains which they shouldn't have in the first place are lost. If they don't get caught, they get to keep their gains. This would incentivise players to keep trying to take advantage of any other loopholes they can find in the future because it is zero risk and medium to high reward. Its pretty obvious at this point that the dev team can't monitor everything and stop these issues promptly without player feedback, so there needs to be appropriate rewards and punishments put into place.
Another thing purely on the economic side of it: if this has been going for for a period of time, the value they have gotten from the money would be greater than the sum of money directly gained from the bets, because they would have used the money in some efficient way. That could be trading, investing, eating SEs, etc. So if you remove the money from their accounts it would be akin to giving them a free loan of that amount of money with no interest.
TLDR: an actual bookie would have detected this faster and have systems to prevent future abuse. Torn's monitoring system is not up there.
Another thing purely on the economic side of it: if this has been going for for a period of time, the value they have gotten from the money would be greater than the sum of money directly gained from the bets, because they would have used the money in some efficient way. That could be trading, investing, eating SEs, etc. So if you remove the money from their accounts it would be akin to giving them a free loan of that amount of money with no interest.
TLDR: an actual bookie would have detected this faster and have systems to prevent future abuse. Torn's monitoring system is not up there.
Only thing to add here is that you should use some boxes of tissues before the candy, it doesn't take booster cooldown and it's cheap. Maxing out your happy from tissues -> candy -> ecstasy is enough to reach 3k to 4k happy from my experience, although it obviously depends on your cooldowns, max happiness, etc.
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For context: I forgot to close my bazaar when I fell asleep and Mania chatted me wanting to buy some stuff then mugged me about 5 mins later after the things she wanted to buy were bought off my bazaar by someone else.
Reply:
I never said you bought from me and I'm not mad about the mug, it was my fault for not protecting myself. I accidentally fell asleep without closing my bazaar, which was a stupid mistake on my part. This is not a personal vendetta against you; if it were personal I'd have bountied/sent PMs/asked friends to help/posted this on more of your threads etc. I just think it's useful information specifically for people reading your trade thread that you would mug people from watching their bazaar.
I didn't reply your chat also because I was asleep, I assumed you knew that because you mugged me while I was afk for hours. If you didn't then my bad.
I'm sure that if you don't mug people who you buy from then your actions will speak for themselves and what I say will not hurt you too much. Have a good day, I sincerely wish you the best with your trading!
Reply:
I never said you bought from me and I'm not mad about the mug, it was my fault for not protecting myself. I accidentally fell asleep without closing my bazaar, which was a stupid mistake on my part. This is not a personal vendetta against you; if it were personal I'd have bountied/sent PMs/asked friends to help/posted this on more of your threads etc. I just think it's useful information specifically for people reading your trade thread that you would mug people from watching their bazaar.
I didn't reply your chat also because I was asleep, I assumed you knew that because you mugged me while I was afk for hours. If you didn't then my bad.
I'm sure that if you don't mug people who you buy from then your actions will speak for themselves and what I say will not hurt you too much. Have a good day, I sincerely wish you the best with your trading!
https://www.torn.com/loader.php?sid=attackLog&ID=6d8a3d4e3aefbe7565b3226b0345835e
Mugged me yesterday, you can see the exact amount mugged in my log lines up with his money mugged graph
Mugged me yesterday, you can see the exact amount mugged in my log lines up with his money mugged graph
Well, some of the way the potions and equipment only working on the next cycle didn't seem very intuitive to me. Could have been explained better I guess.
I'd like some sort of incentive/mechanic that makes attacking other players more worthwhile in the early game. For example, if everyone had a base amount of gold regen each round, they wouldn't be forced into building slave mines round 1 and 2. I also think some kind of random event every few cycles would be interesting to make things less repetitive, but balance wise I'm not sure how that would play out.
I think alliances, teams and such should be allowed but all communications should be in the game thread to be fair about it. You shouldn't be able to make deals outside the game or before the game even begins (entering with a team).
Lastly on the previous mentions of post editing, there is some advantage to players who can be online near each cycles reset time, since they can react to what other players have done. Nobody really abused it so far, but it's possible to fake out an action and then edit it to something else right before the next cycle begins. It also means that nobody really wants to kill a player if they don't have to, because, surprise surprise they edit their post and attack their killer 3x before they die. The simplest solution to this would be "closed" turns where we PM the host our moves for each cycle and he publishes it at the fixed time when the cycle rolls over. This would be a lot more work for the host though, and since it hasn't actually been abused it may not be a needed change.
Thanks for hosting B_Cas!
I'd like some sort of incentive/mechanic that makes attacking other players more worthwhile in the early game. For example, if everyone had a base amount of gold regen each round, they wouldn't be forced into building slave mines round 1 and 2. I also think some kind of random event every few cycles would be interesting to make things less repetitive, but balance wise I'm not sure how that would play out.
I think alliances, teams and such should be allowed but all communications should be in the game thread to be fair about it. You shouldn't be able to make deals outside the game or before the game even begins (entering with a team).
Lastly on the previous mentions of post editing, there is some advantage to players who can be online near each cycles reset time, since they can react to what other players have done. Nobody really abused it so far, but it's possible to fake out an action and then edit it to something else right before the next cycle begins. It also means that nobody really wants to kill a player if they don't have to, because, surprise surprise they edit their post and attack their killer 3x before they die. The simplest solution to this would be "closed" turns where we PM the host our moves for each cycle and he publishes it at the fixed time when the cycle rolls over. This would be a lot more work for the host though, and since it hasn't actually been abused it may not be a needed change.
Thanks for hosting B_Cas!
Not sure if you're still updating this but any % over a 100% gives an invalid value error.
Shifted 50m of plushies with no issues. R+
Just in case you haven't checked his post history already, he has a duplicate thread of this in trade post and is also supposedly selling losses for 30k 
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They will be dumping 10 thousand of each new can into circulation through the community event. Depends if the winner wants to put them out on the market or not though. The newspaper article said that the new cans would be fully released on christmas. I personally don't think people are going to collect or hoard the cans when there's a known date of release and it's pretty soon. I'm also doubtful about how useful the new cans are, particularly the 5e and 10e ones. Players with enough money will just go for the better cans, players who don't have money shouldn't be going for cans in the first place (outside of the cans merit). I'm expecting prices to tank after double can day.
TLDR: Would not recommend trying to hoard your free cans for the medium/long term. Prices might fluctuate in the short term with elimination/can day/traders influencing the new market though.
TLDR: Would not recommend trying to hoard your free cans for the medium/long term. Prices might fluctuate in the short term with elimination/can day/traders influencing the new market though.
Use 1 Advanced Health Potion, attack WhiteCifer twice
Use 1 Advanced Strength Potion, attack WhiteCifer twice