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My mom is neither diabetic nor grossly obese and in March 2020 she almost died from pneumonia secondary to COVID-19. This was right before the lockdown and COVID hadn't become the level of hysteria that it did yet. She caught it from an irresponsible person who didn't even cover her mouth and was hacking up a lung all over the place in a Kohl's instead of staying the f**k home and getting better (or going to a damn hospital, who would've thought?)
You're right that obese and diabetic people are more at risk, but A) not every diabetic is a type II diabetic (they didn't choose whether they'd be diabetic or not) and B) obese people and diabetics are at risk more for everything. Saying that a disease is only a problem for certain risk groups is disingenuous and smacks of the AIDS denialism of the 70's and 80's. They thought that it was a "gay disease" but now 40 years down the line we know anyone can get it and it's not just gay people and drug users. Someone only needs to come into contact with 65,000 copies of the HIV virus to become infected without any prophylaxis, just 1mL of blood in an untreated HIV positive person can contain over 1,000,000 copies. It's in our best interest to find a preventative and a cure - that's why we have PrEP for people who know they may be exposed and PEP for those who have been.
But as for the rest of this thread:
The problem isn't a threat that unvaccinated people are a threat to vaccinated people, it's that they're a threat to themselves and their community, as well as immunocompromised people and children that can't get the vaccine. They have just as much of a right to live as the rest of us. Anti-vaccine advocates often invoke the idea of natural or "God-given" rights, and this idea in it's modern conception was pioneered by Thomas Hobbes and John Locke. This is the stuff America and other modern nations were founded on, and it's a truly beautiful idea. The job of a government is to protect their citizens' rights to life, liberty, and property. (We also like to add "pursuit of happiness," but we can just ignore that for now.) The thing is we all have a right to life as much as the rest of us, but that right to life only exists as a right if we all have EQUAL right to life. Just the same, we're all entitled to liberty, or freedom, and property, or estate as Locke originally put it. If you're sharp, you might ask yourself why you only ever see them in this order, and there's a reason for this: Life is the most important one. John Locke said, more or less that the three natural rights are:
Now, back to the diseases, which is what I'm good at. We know as a trend that children are less likely to have severe symptoms a la chicken pox, but this is a trend, not a rule. Healthy children, teenagers and young adults can be susceptible to severe COVID symptoms. People with no pre-existing conditions can have COVID symptoms. The thing is, this disease is deadly enough that it's worth completely eliminating from the face of the earth like polio or smallpox, which we did with vaccines. People who get severe COVID have multiple additional complications, develop long-term or permanent disabilities, can become impotent, and end up with a lower quality of life and could even need lifelong medical treatment or assistance just to get through a normal day - IF they live. Even if they don't, it's a slow agonizing death where between the assorted liquids in your lungs, and the inflammation caused by your immune system, you either slowly asphyxiate or your immune system is so overwhelmed by opportunistic infections that it can't fight back and you die of multiple organ failure. Long story short, it's a shitty disease that f**king sucks ass, especially if you're unlucky, but on the other hand, it's one of the ones we can exploit for human resistance. Instead of wasting our medical resources fighting it after we're infected, it's better to empower what God gave us to do it's job more effectively. Think about it, if you had to fight a dragon or something, would you at least want a gun or sword or some shit? Or are you just gonna go in there swinging and hope for the best?
As someone who works in the biotechnology industry and spent years learning shit to do it, and now is going back to school to learn even more complex and difficult shit about how cells diddle each other so I can get them to do different things than endlessly f**k up and die, it constantly annoys me that people are so quick to throw our work under the bus because of shitty corporations and the government. The vast majority of us are in this line of work to help people first and foremost, and we're not looking to make a quick buck at the expense of someone's life like those Sackler leeches from Purdue Pharma. We're not drug discovery wackos either, who want to find the next big heart disease drug so they can overcharge old people's insurance for something that costs pennies on the dollar to make doses of. Vaccine development folks ESPECIALLY aren't looking to harm their patients. There are only three things that matter when it comes to that line of work - "does it work?", "is it safe?", and "Can we make a lot of it?" And yet, even with the ASTRONOMICALLY small chance that something can go wrong when you get it - usually, due to unknown allergies - some xanax-and-wine mom who shoves egg shaped rocks up her vagina to ward off evil spirits is busy posting to Facebook about how her butthole is sore after she passed out drunk half falling out of bed and it MUST be the vaccine. Never mind the fact that we've had mRNA vaccine technology for almost 35 years, they're easier and faster to make and store than standard weak-virus vaccines, and that thousands of underpaid academics who just wanted to make the world a better place for future generations poured their sweat, blood and tears into making this sort of thing a reality. Just like any astronomer, ancient philosopher, engineer or alchemist before them, the goal was just making things better. And I GUARANTEE that the people who are actually responsible for the vaccine feel exactly the same way, and see the corporation or agency they work for as a necessary evil to make that happen.
Honestly if it wasn't for that f**king scam artist Andrew Wakefield I don't even think we'd be having this conversation right now. You know - the British "doctor" who wrote a paper that spawned the "vaccines cause autism" catchphrase. Did you know that the results of his initial study were almost entirely made up, as well as the statements of the parents of experiment subjects? That he worked with a quack doctor who was stripped of his license for trying to use an unproven, experimental treatment developed from his own body with no oversight, on children without informed consent? That Andrew Wakefield medically abused and almost killed several of his charges, several times causing them to have to undergo emergency invasive surgery, and also left some of those children with permanent injuries and disabilities? How about that the vaccine he demonized, the then-mandated Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine, was only chosen so he could offer alternative, separate vaccines manufactured by his own company for 65GBP each? So he could make triple the money off of children who were required to be vaccinated and undermine confidence in public health? The number of people who have died needlessly thanks to that scam artist is FAR too high.
I don't expect people to have their mind changed by this or even to read this entire post, but if there is a tl;dr, it's this: Just because the government or a corporation advocates or makes money off of something, doesn't mean it's dangerous or untrustworthy. Yes, there is something wrong with both corporations and the government, and you're right to not trust them, but not for the reasons you think. They have a vested interest in keeping you alive, healthy and not disabled, and that benefits you, so you should take advantage of that. It's ok to be wary of people and robust skepticism is a healthy thing, but there needs to be a certain point where you can accept that something is safe and effective.
And if the rest of society deems something safe and effective, and you still refuse? Prepare yourself for the consequences of your choices.
You're right that obese and diabetic people are more at risk, but A) not every diabetic is a type II diabetic (they didn't choose whether they'd be diabetic or not) and B) obese people and diabetics are at risk more for everything. Saying that a disease is only a problem for certain risk groups is disingenuous and smacks of the AIDS denialism of the 70's and 80's. They thought that it was a "gay disease" but now 40 years down the line we know anyone can get it and it's not just gay people and drug users. Someone only needs to come into contact with 65,000 copies of the HIV virus to become infected without any prophylaxis, just 1mL of blood in an untreated HIV positive person can contain over 1,000,000 copies. It's in our best interest to find a preventative and a cure - that's why we have PrEP for people who know they may be exposed and PEP for those who have been.
But as for the rest of this thread:
The problem isn't a threat that unvaccinated people are a threat to vaccinated people, it's that they're a threat to themselves and their community, as well as immunocompromised people and children that can't get the vaccine. They have just as much of a right to live as the rest of us. Anti-vaccine advocates often invoke the idea of natural or "God-given" rights, and this idea in it's modern conception was pioneered by Thomas Hobbes and John Locke. This is the stuff America and other modern nations were founded on, and it's a truly beautiful idea. The job of a government is to protect their citizens' rights to life, liberty, and property. (We also like to add "pursuit of happiness," but we can just ignore that for now.) The thing is we all have a right to life as much as the rest of us, but that right to life only exists as a right if we all have EQUAL right to life. Just the same, we're all entitled to liberty, or freedom, and property, or estate as Locke originally put it. If you're sharp, you might ask yourself why you only ever see them in this order, and there's a reason for this: Life is the most important one. John Locke said, more or less that the three natural rights are:
- Life: everyone is entitled to live.
- Liberty: everyone is entitled to do anything they want to so long as it doesn't conflict with the first right.
- Estate: everyone is entitled to own all they create or gain through gift or trade so long as it doesn't conflict with the first two rights.
Now, back to the diseases, which is what I'm good at. We know as a trend that children are less likely to have severe symptoms a la chicken pox, but this is a trend, not a rule. Healthy children, teenagers and young adults can be susceptible to severe COVID symptoms. People with no pre-existing conditions can have COVID symptoms. The thing is, this disease is deadly enough that it's worth completely eliminating from the face of the earth like polio or smallpox, which we did with vaccines. People who get severe COVID have multiple additional complications, develop long-term or permanent disabilities, can become impotent, and end up with a lower quality of life and could even need lifelong medical treatment or assistance just to get through a normal day - IF they live. Even if they don't, it's a slow agonizing death where between the assorted liquids in your lungs, and the inflammation caused by your immune system, you either slowly asphyxiate or your immune system is so overwhelmed by opportunistic infections that it can't fight back and you die of multiple organ failure. Long story short, it's a shitty disease that f**king sucks ass, especially if you're unlucky, but on the other hand, it's one of the ones we can exploit for human resistance. Instead of wasting our medical resources fighting it after we're infected, it's better to empower what God gave us to do it's job more effectively. Think about it, if you had to fight a dragon or something, would you at least want a gun or sword or some shit? Or are you just gonna go in there swinging and hope for the best?
As someone who works in the biotechnology industry and spent years learning shit to do it, and now is going back to school to learn even more complex and difficult shit about how cells diddle each other so I can get them to do different things than endlessly f**k up and die, it constantly annoys me that people are so quick to throw our work under the bus because of shitty corporations and the government. The vast majority of us are in this line of work to help people first and foremost, and we're not looking to make a quick buck at the expense of someone's life like those Sackler leeches from Purdue Pharma. We're not drug discovery wackos either, who want to find the next big heart disease drug so they can overcharge old people's insurance for something that costs pennies on the dollar to make doses of. Vaccine development folks ESPECIALLY aren't looking to harm their patients. There are only three things that matter when it comes to that line of work - "does it work?", "is it safe?", and "Can we make a lot of it?" And yet, even with the ASTRONOMICALLY small chance that something can go wrong when you get it - usually, due to unknown allergies - some xanax-and-wine mom who shoves egg shaped rocks up her vagina to ward off evil spirits is busy posting to Facebook about how her butthole is sore after she passed out drunk half falling out of bed and it MUST be the vaccine. Never mind the fact that we've had mRNA vaccine technology for almost 35 years, they're easier and faster to make and store than standard weak-virus vaccines, and that thousands of underpaid academics who just wanted to make the world a better place for future generations poured their sweat, blood and tears into making this sort of thing a reality. Just like any astronomer, ancient philosopher, engineer or alchemist before them, the goal was just making things better. And I GUARANTEE that the people who are actually responsible for the vaccine feel exactly the same way, and see the corporation or agency they work for as a necessary evil to make that happen.
Honestly if it wasn't for that f**king scam artist Andrew Wakefield I don't even think we'd be having this conversation right now. You know - the British "doctor" who wrote a paper that spawned the "vaccines cause autism" catchphrase. Did you know that the results of his initial study were almost entirely made up, as well as the statements of the parents of experiment subjects? That he worked with a quack doctor who was stripped of his license for trying to use an unproven, experimental treatment developed from his own body with no oversight, on children without informed consent? That Andrew Wakefield medically abused and almost killed several of his charges, several times causing them to have to undergo emergency invasive surgery, and also left some of those children with permanent injuries and disabilities? How about that the vaccine he demonized, the then-mandated Measles, Mumps and Rubella vaccine, was only chosen so he could offer alternative, separate vaccines manufactured by his own company for 65GBP each? So he could make triple the money off of children who were required to be vaccinated and undermine confidence in public health? The number of people who have died needlessly thanks to that scam artist is FAR too high.
I don't expect people to have their mind changed by this or even to read this entire post, but if there is a tl;dr, it's this: Just because the government or a corporation advocates or makes money off of something, doesn't mean it's dangerous or untrustworthy. Yes, there is something wrong with both corporations and the government, and you're right to not trust them, but not for the reasons you think. They have a vested interest in keeping you alive, healthy and not disabled, and that benefits you, so you should take advantage of that. It's ok to be wary of people and robust skepticism is a healthy thing, but there needs to be a certain point where you can accept that something is safe and effective.
And if the rest of society deems something safe and effective, and you still refuse? Prepare yourself for the consequences of your choices.
no suggestions from me, just an extremely sincere thank you for all of the time, effort and money that you and your team have put into this script. i'm sure that for the vast majority of us who use it, it would be impossible to go back to playing the game without it. frankly, i'm not sure there is a combination of words that is worthy enough to describe the impact it's had on the game for so many of us. so once again, thank you all for your hard work!
Ara ara~
It was pretty funny though.
Rino, it wasn't related to special characters, Ched had changed his name temporarily for what I assume is a test.
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not a single fucking period or comma in this abortion of a message from good will tarding.
synchronized gooning increases team cohesion, camaraderie, and charges JO crystals faster with your bros. it's just common sense
Very quick. Thanks buddy!
hell fuckin yea brother
best DB usage i've ever seen. i've witnessed WTF's fighting first hand, i can't imagine how badly VR is going to get stomped
yeah unfortunately we tried to organize some counter pushes and very few people showed up. it was getting more and more difficult to keep the chain going when ducks were pushing, so after a few failed attempts we pretty much agreed to call it. half the faction is AFK (by design, this is the retirement/break faction for NS), and we don't expect people to spend a lot of money to fight the occasional war, so even with the stat advantage we simply lacked the activity. we had accomplished our goal of the participation minimum and giving ducks a bit of a fight, so i don't feel bad about it.
we figured this was a possible outcome, if anything it's a good sign to up and coming factions that activity and optimal resource usage can get you very far in ranked warring. personally i would find it kind of shitty if we could just stonewall an active, motivated faction like ducks just by having a higher statline with a fraction of the activity. for ducks, it's good practice versus higher stat enemies and validation that their strategy is solid. for us, it's a good bit of fun and banter. i know i'll be keeping track of the ducks now to see how high they can climb!
good game, it was lots of fun duckies. and thanks for the defends. y'all remind me of the good times i had playing this game when i was more active in NS2. keep up the good work
wait if you guys are ducks why are you making goose sounds
wait this isn't a cache farm? i should've stacked
wow i was expecting something more juicy than "bogie is enjoying a more fruitful life than me" as blackmail fodder
Yeah, I've experienced the same thing switching tabs on my browser, switching windows, even after refreshing. Unless I keep one tab in focus all the time, I'm liable to miss any chat messages that the gods see fit. If you chat enough in this game you will absolutely see it, and it's maddening.
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we had a similar conversation re: matchmaking in fac chat. already had the stats advantage by a good margin, we weren't queued for an exceptionally long time either so i'm not sure if the matchmaking algo was already looking outside of our normal range. it's all speculation on my part anyhow so i guess it's up to the devs.
that being said you guys are being great sports about it. thanks for the match, i hope ched reviews the results because i also think the double de-rank is a bit unfair. i noticed plenty of you online, there's a big difference between "not participating" and being sat on as well :/
that being said you guys are being great sports about it. thanks for the match, i hope ched reviews the results because i also think the double de-rank is a bit unfair. i noticed plenty of you online, there's a big difference between "not participating" and being sat on as well :/
not a fan of intentional outside interference (for example, allies/sister factions trying to influence the outcome of the war), cause then it's not really between the two factions. bounties are ok though and so is the rest as long as it's not expressly forbidden by game rules.
No problem! I'm sure you have more to do than cater to me :P Appreciate the update!
I'm glad you feel that way - you should all feel damn proud. Even when we were creeping our way to the finish line we were dreading what might happen if your activity spiked back up. The graph is a powerful indication of what we were up against, this was truly one of the most evenly matched ranked wars so far, IMO.
I think what allowed us to win was the dedication of some of our more active members, and a more even spread across timezones. From the graph, it appears that you guys are super strong during EU/Asia daylight hours. We also have slightly - only slightly - more experience doing ranked wars. That being said, honestly, I'm having trouble believing this was your faction's first.
You guys are going to be ranked war beasts, no doubt in my mind.
I think what allowed us to win was the dedication of some of our more active members, and a more even spread across timezones. From the graph, it appears that you guys are super strong during EU/Asia daylight hours. We also have slightly - only slightly - more experience doing ranked wars. That being said, honestly, I'm having trouble believing this was your faction's first.
You guys are going to be ranked war beasts, no doubt in my mind.
Apologies if this is the wrong thread for requests/suggestions.
Mine is a simple one. I often turn off the chain timer notifications when we're not chaining, for obvious reasons. Currently, this requires me clearing out the text box with my comma-separated values for seconds remaining on the timer.
I'm curious if it would be possible to add a checkbox that activates/deactivates the notification, so I don't have to re-enter the values every time I want to turn them off.
I understand this is a low-priority request in comparison to many other features I'm sure you're working on, and if it's a hassle to implement I won't be insulted if you reject the suggestion. But I think it would be an appreciated quality of life change, even if it is very minor.
Thanks! Love your work, would be impossible for me to play without it. And feel free to PM/message me if you have questions or want clarification.
Mine is a simple one. I often turn off the chain timer notifications when we're not chaining, for obvious reasons. Currently, this requires me clearing out the text box with my comma-separated values for seconds remaining on the timer.
I'm curious if it would be possible to add a checkbox that activates/deactivates the notification, so I don't have to re-enter the values every time I want to turn them off.
I understand this is a low-priority request in comparison to many other features I'm sure you're working on, and if it's a hassle to implement I won't be insulted if you reject the suggestion. But I think it would be an appreciated quality of life change, even if it is very minor.
Thanks! Love your work, would be impossible for me to play without it. And feel free to PM/message me if you have questions or want clarification.