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I have seen some rather... discouraging takes on global regarding the recent events that took/are taking place in Russia and Ukraine.

I am not Russian myself, however my fiance is Russian and I hope to bring her to this game in the near future. If trends that I have seen recently continue I may not recommend this game to her as she could potentially be subject to harassment and ridicule by members of torn.

Before I state anything else, I myself stand with the people of Ukraine as well as my fiance, we have both donated to charities helping the people and would love if you guys do the same. (You can view a few charities to donate to in Sugarvalves article here if you are unsure where to go.

This next sentence is key to the entire point of my thread,

Russians are not the culprit, the Russian Government has instigated these attacks.

Russia is much like China, extreme censorship of information is a huge part of how their government survives. Speaking out against the government has lead to many journalists "mysteriously disappearing" within the next couple years. Yes there are Russians who support Putin and fully want him to take over Ukraine, however much like in World War 2 with the german army, the majority of Russians are uninformed on the events taking place.

The world has a terrible history of making generalizations of groups based off the opinions of those in control.

You have a full right to be upset with the acts that are taking place, but generalizing the actions of a few, on entire group of people... is not a way to approach it.

How it links to Torn

I would love to see torn become a more diverse game with many different cultures and countries represented, however we as a community need to be accepting to all and put ourselves in others shoes before assuming the worst. Creating an environment of hate toward a group is a fast-track way to discourage diversity in the game and I believe most dedicated players want to see this game continue to grow.

So please, support Ukraine with all your hearts, but don't bring hate to the table for those who don't deserve it... we already have enough hate in the world and torn... more hate will not help the situation.

With love to the torn community,

Quack

P.S. Im gonna be honest I think this relates to torn so I decided to post it in general, if a mod thinks its better suited in another section feel free to move it.

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Alright baron, I would like to sell my 60k faction for 15.5 billion, add me to your private list and lmk when someone meets the offer :).

Once its sold I would like to be added to your buyers list looking for a faction 2m+ respect for 1.5m

thanks!

Ill start it out :) 250m

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I think I found your issue

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That is a good point, but unless you use the system yourself, they will still gain more net respect than you.

IE you are not gaining war points by attacking those outside the faction...

Congrats...


and f**k you :)

The thing is, Doesn't early discharge being implemented already remove that?

This would not change how bounties are taken during ranked warring, as early discharge was already implemented.

ah I see the issue here,

no Faction B would have people hit their own members, Hiring a merc to hosp their lower stat members when they are inactive/not attacking...

Faction A would be early discharging members of faction B in order to allow them to be hit for respect.

Yeah it is a pretty weird solution, but I consider early discharge to be a weird solution to begin with...

Apologies, Faction A would get to Early discharge members of Faction B, instead of only faction B being able to discharge themselves whenever they want, faction A would also have the option to early discharge the members of faction B if they were hit by outsiders.

Sorry I didn't have enough coffee today when attempting to come up with a solution...

Yes, if ranked warring is supposed to be completely separate from outside hitting (as Early discharge makes be believe staff intends to happen), that is exactly what I think should be added.

Grave, not productive conversation as I hoped...

Hey all!

Early discharge was recently added, if y'all don't know what it is, it allows you to get out of the hospital early if you were attacked by an outside party during ranked war. This mitigates outside influence on war but does not solve the problem completely.

In war players can still abuse the bounty system by placing bounties on their own members so they can't be attacked at all by the opposing faction. If the goal of Ranked war is to be completely separate from outside influence then I believe this change needs to be made.

The Change...

Allow Early Discharge to be used by the enemy faction during ranked war.

For example

If 10 lower level players had been attacked by outside players and were in the hospital for 3 hours, early discharge could be used by the other faction to allow them to be attacked and make outside influence on the ranked war negligible.

The current change fixed the issue of players being spam attacked to keep them hospitalized by outside members, however it does not solve the problem of players being bountied intentionally to keep them hospitalized so they can't be attacked.

How it works NOW:

Faction A: Places bounties on their own low stats members
Outsider: Attacks member of Faction A and hospitalizes them
Faction B: Unable to attack member of Faction A and gain respect off them.

How it would work:

Faction A: Places bounties on their own low stats members
Outsider: Attacks member of Faction A and hospitalizes them
Faction B: Early Discharges member of Faction A that is in hospital
Faction B: Able to attack member of opposing faction and gain respect as normal.

How it works example by Elizabeth:

So if, hypothetically speaking, Monarch in a war and PT hit the early discharge requirement and had a bunch of members in the hosp (by outsiders), any old Monarch member could click a button and force one of the PT members hit by an outside hit to leave the hospital immediately.

https://wiki.torn.com/wiki/Hospital#Early_Discharge

P.S. Questions and answers forum for questions :)

I have seen some rather... discouraging takes on global regarding the recent events that took/are taking place in Russia and Ukraine.

I am not Russian myself, however my fiance is Russian and I hope to bring her to this game in the near future. If trends that I have seen recently continue I may not recommend this game to her as she could potentially be subject to harassment and ridicule by members of torn.

Before I state anything else, I myself stand with the people of Ukraine as well as my fiance, we have both donated to charities helping the people and would love if you guys do the same. (You can view a few charities to donate to in Sugarvalves article here if you are unsure where to go.

This next sentence is key to the entire point of my thread,

Russians are not the culprit, the Russian Government has instigated these attacks.

Russia is much like China, extreme censorship of information is a huge part of how their government survives. Speaking out against the government has lead to many journalists "mysteriously disappearing" within the next couple years. Yes there are Russians who support Putin and fully want him to take over Ukraine, however much like in World War 2 with the german army, the majority of Russians are uninformed on the events taking place.

The world has a terrible history of making generalizations of groups based off the opinions of those in control.

You have a full right to be upset with the acts that are taking place, but generalizing the actions of a few, on entire group of people... is not a way to approach it.

How it links to Torn

I would love to see torn become a more diverse game with many different cultures and countries represented, however we as a community need to be accepting to all and put ourselves in others shoes before assuming the worst. Creating an environment of hate toward a group is a fast-track way to discourage diversity in the game and I believe most dedicated players want to see this game continue to grow.

So please, support Ukraine with all your hearts, but don't bring hate to the table for those who don't deserve it... we already have enough hate in the world and torn... more hate will not help the situation.

With love to the torn community,

Quack

P.S. Im gonna be honest I think this relates to torn so I decided to post it in general, if a mod thinks its better suited in another section feel free to move it.

6 armor caches in 1 war when iv gotten 1 armor cache in 6 wars, please cache gods im begging you ;(

You should search for who stole your braincells first.