What affects crime success rate in Torn, and is there a cap on it?
No cap on personal crime success rate is documented in the sources. In Crimes 2.0, success depends on hidden crime experience (CE), per-crime crime skill (CS, 1 to 100) and crime-specific factors. Bonuses raise CE and CS gains, so they affect success only indirectly. The 99% figure is an organized-crime checkpoint cap only.[1][2]
What sets success in Crimes 2.0
- Crime experience is hidden and partly dictates how much you succeed or fail at different crimes.[1]
- Each crime has its own crime skill, starting at 1 and rising to 100. Skill in one crime does not affect another.[1]
- The Shoplifting announcement says it may be inefficient to shoplift at some shops until you have a higher skill level.[3]
- Every Shoplifting attempt raises notoriety in that shop, making later attempts more challenging.[4]
- Nerve, level and battle stats: no 2.0 source found shows them affecting personal crime success. Older 1.0 stat effects are history.
Bonuses, merits and items
Under Crimes 2.0, company, education, merit and faction bonuses that once passively raised success chance now raise CE and CS gains instead (developer announcement at early access, no document in this pack). The 2.0 Education page says PSY3690 gives a 10% increase to crime exp and skill progression.[5] The Crimes 1.0 pages still say success rate for the same course and judge job.[6][7]
- Crime chain: up to a maximum of +20% CE and CS gains, per a player guide.[8]
- Crime Progression merit: +1% crime experience and skill gain per level.[9]
- Faction Criminality: up to 25% on the tree, but players in 2.0 receive at most 10% (finding from a source not in this pack).
- Each crime has its own enhancer; the Shoplifting one is the Mountain Bike.[4]
- The wiki caps 2.0 enhancer perks at 13.[10]
Failures and the crime chain
A failure does not decrease CE or CS, but halves the chain.[1] A critical failure cuts CE and skill by ten times the expected gain, per a player guide, and zeroes the chain.[11] Because CE partly dictates success, a critical failure can lower later odds indirectly.[1] Demoralization after a critical failure lowers later gains.[12]
Real caps versus non-caps
- Personal crimes: no maximum success rate is stated.
- CS is capped at 100 as a progression level. Skill gained past 100 currently has no effect.[1]
- Organized crimes: Checkpoint Success Rate is up to 99%, based on Crime XP and hidden role modifiers. This applies to organized crime only.[2]
- Not success caps: the natural nerve bar grows in steps of 5.[13] In 1.0 it maxed at 60, and only the natural bar raised success.[14]
Crimes 2.0 went live on 20 June 2023.[15] The 1.0 merit wording about "increased success rates" was ambiguous even to players.[16]
Where sources disagree
- Current
- Crimes 2.0: bonuses raise CE and CS gains; CS is capped at 100.
- Historical
- Crimes 1.0 pages described the same bonuses as raising success rate.
- Change
- Crimes 2.0 went live on 20 June 2023.
Sources 16
- Forum
[Crimes 2.0] A Criminal Primer — Emforus ·
Why TornLife says this
[Crimes 2.0] A Criminal Primer | Tutorials & Guides | started by Emforus [2535044] on 2024-03-02 | 61 replies On top of your crime experience (which will partly dictate how much you succeed / fail at different crimes), each individual crime has a separate counter called Crime Skill (normally referred to as CS). …
- Forum
Organized Crimes 2.0 : Beta rollout has begun — Chedburn ·
Why TornLife says this
Each participant has a Checkpoint Success Rate up to 99% based on their Crime XP and hidden modifiers assigned to each unique role.
- Forum
Crimes 2.0 : Shoplifting — Chedburn ·
Why TornLife says this
It may be inefficient to shoplift at some shops until you have a higher skill level.
- Torn Wiki
Shoplifting › Overview ·
Why TornLife says this
Every attempt at shoplifting will increase notoriety in that particular shop, making successive attempts more challenging and Jail sentences longer. Overview: Shoplifting is the fourth crime released for Crimes 2.0, containing eight shops available for shoplifting: Sally's Sweet Shop Bits 'n' Bobs TC Clothing Super …
- Torn Wiki
Education:Perks › Crimes & Crime Success ·
Why TornLife says this
PSY3690 | Gain a 10% increase to crime exp & skill progression
- Torn Wiki
Crime › How to Increase Odds in Crime Success ·
Why TornLife says this
Complete PSY3690 Bachelor of Psychological Sciences which provides a 10% increase in crime success rate Invest in Crime Experience Merits which boosts crime experience by +3% per merit investment. …
- Torn Wiki
Crimes 1.0 › How to Increase Odds in Crime Success ·
Why TornLife says this
Complete PSY3690 Bachelor of Psychological Sciences which provides a 10% increase in crime success rate Invest in Crime Experience Merits which boosts crime experience by +3% per merit investment. …
- Forum
[Crimes 2.0] A Criminal Primer — Emforus ·
Why TornLife says this
up to a maximum of +20% CE & CS gains
- Torn Wiki
Merit › Upgrades › Miscellaneous Upgrades ·
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Critical Hit Rate: Increases critical hit rate by 0.5% (Base critical hit rate is approximately 12%.)
- Torn Wiki
Perks › Personal Perks › Enhancers (2/2) ·
Why TornLife says this
Maximum crime 2.0 enhancer perks: 13
- Forum
[Crimes 2.0] A Criminal Primer — Emforus ·
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[Crimes 2.0] A Criminal Primer | Tutorials & Guides | started by Emforus [2535044] on 2024-03-02 | 61 replies Critical Failure (“crit fail” or just “crit”) - Red A critical failure will immediately reduce your crime experience and crime skill by an amount (ten times the expected gain) and cause your crime chain to be …
- Torn Wiki
Crimes 2.0 › Introduction › Crime Chains and Progression ·
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A Failure will halve your current crime chain bonus. A Critical Failure will zero your current crime chain bonus.
- Torn Wiki
Crimes 2.0 › Introduction ·
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CS is a metric measured in levels, individually for each crime, displayed with a progress bar on each crime page.
- Torn Wiki
Crime › Introduction ·
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The maximum natural Nerve bar is 60, and the maximum total is 125, though only your natural bar actually increases your success rate at crimes.
- Torn Wiki
Crimes 2.0 ·
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The update was first announced in September 2012 and went live on 20 June 2023.
- Forum
Crime Experience merit gain, the truth — SensualD ·
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This upgrade will give you a continuous boost of 3% to the effect of your crime experience resulting in increased success rates.
On TornLife
- TopicCrimes 2.0
- TopicCrime experience
- TopicCrime success rate
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